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Atheist/Skeptic/Agnostic | 151 | 70.89% | |
Catholic | 21 | 9.86% | |
Protestant | 24 | 11.27% | |
Jewish | 5 | 2.35% | |
Muslim | 2 | 0.94% | |
Philisophy (Such as Buddhism) | 10 | 4.69% | |
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2012-05-04, 03:15 AM | [Ignore Me] #601 | |||
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It lasted two pages before the religious realised we were using their own arguments against them (inability to disprove, sabattical gods, inconsistencies by the arbitrary attitudes, intrigue and differing characters of the Pantheon gods, forces of nature and general lack of knowledge of and interest in the subject). What was funny was that we actually could explain dinosaurs and huge fossiles better than they did by applying mythology: Hydra's, Nemean Lions, Griffons, titans, etc. could all be "shown" to live in that time period using Greek myth, whereas there's no references to such monsters in the bible. While they could not rely on their usual method of biblical text quoting, since they had to critique. Hell, we could even state "our" religion pre-dated theirs, so it "must be more accurate" (age is after all often used that way) and there'd be little they could bring in against that that wouldn't disqualify their own arguments at the same time. Even science was on our side since we had all the big philosophers from the Classical Era. So typically, this kind of setup won't work, the only ones interested are the agnostic and atheists (sometimes in a rather gloating and vengeful way to vent frustration of hitting brick walls of stubornness in other debates by returning the favour). Personally I'd love to try it again, but I very much doubt you'll get enough "opposition" in the debate. |
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2012-05-04, 06:25 AM | [Ignore Me] #602 | |||
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2012-05-04, 07:45 AM | [Ignore Me] #603 | ||
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Unfortunately, a few years back the site got hacked, the entire forum (around 20.000 topics over the entirety of the forum and around 150-200 on the philo forum) got wiped completely. :/
After that, the entirety of the old philo crew gave up on it since new "trolls" came in, restarting topics that had been debated to death already and the section never recovered really. The old crew lost interest really, we tried to set it up elsewhere, but it just wasn't the same with an incomplete debate crew and having visited all topics with these people before. Kinda like going into a chess game and knowing which stale mate will occur when. |
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2012-05-18, 02:31 AM | [Ignore Me] #607 | |||
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Sadly, for both of us, that will not be in our lifetime. Your defense is as strong as if you had made it two thousand years ago. Personally I prefer to live my life through what is observable and generally well understood. I find it relaxing knowing my life is my own even as improbable as it was. I know it might sound like arrogance from your perspective, but it's also comforting to know my mind doesn't require a defense mechanism around death, like you cling to. You seem fixated on it since you've brought it up a few times. Carpe diem.
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2012-05-18, 07:59 AM | [Ignore Me] #609 | |||
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This sentence in particular:
I mean... really? Constantly wrong? I don't know about you but I'm rather fond of medicine and satellites and computers and physics and such. And... your faith hasn't been questioned in 2000 years? What about... all those other religions that think you're dead wrong? They've been around a long time too. I think we're at the point where he's just swinging for the fences. |
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2012-05-18, 08:16 AM | [Ignore Me] #610 | ||
The irony of talking with people around the world on a message board and lamenting the constant wrongness of modern science is pretty delightful. People are living longer, healthier, safer lives than they ever have in the history of the human race, and it ain't because Jesus loves us so.
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2012-05-19, 05:13 AM | [Ignore Me] #612 | ||
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Alright people, let's have some fun. Let's not depend on Duke to argue the biblical history, let's ask a Dr! Yes indeed, someone with a degree.
We, ladies and gentlepeople, are talking about a guy with a doctorate who claims dinosaurs walked with men, because on ONE temple in Cambodia, he believes there to be a Stegosaurus depicted on the wall. (Contemporary evidence is also present, since I once drew a Stegosaurus in grammarschool and so have other children). Have fun! |
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