Trayvon Martin

[Warborn]

They're not saying stuff in public, though, they're saying it to the prosecution. If they falsify their testimony to the state prosecution I'm fairly sure under American law that's a crime. Maybe there'll be a moment of courtroom drama where a witness dramatically changes his or her testimony, but at this point I'd take the stuff the witnesses are saying as "it". One of the witnesses also came forward before Zimmerman was charged and claimed that the police misrepresented her testimony and refused to change it as well.

[Warborn]

http://abcnews.go.com/US/prosecution...3#.T8mEF8VQSIV

Bond revoked. Lied about how much money he has and even had the audacity to talk about his actual finances with his wife in code during monitored telephone calls. Apparently Stormfront or someone actually donated hundreds of thousands to his defense fund, aka. his "flee the country" fund apparently, although he claimed he was broke. Also lied about having a second passport when he was ordered to turn in his passports when charged. He's off to a great start. I guess depending on how everyone's feeling his wife might be looking at some perjury charges, too.

Meanwhile, the prosecution is apparently refusing to disclose a bunch of evidence they've collected against Zimmerman and various news organizations are filing to have the judge order the information disclosed provided it wouldn't adversely affect the case were it to be disclosed.

[Baneblade]

If he is guilty, he is guilty. But considering what could happen to him if he is found not guilty, you can't really fault him for having a back up plan.

[Warborn]

Well I guess the the good news is he has much less reason to worry about what'll happen if he's found not guilty, now.

[Baneblade]

I'm predicting a mistrial.

[Warborn]

Zimmerman's wife charged with perjury. Since it was both George and his wife conspiring together to obfuscate their actual assets from the court I'm expecting that a perjury charge is going to land on top of his second degree murder charge at some point as well.

[Malorn]

Meh.

[Warborn]

You realize they were hiding their finances from the judge, not each other, right? That they lied about how much money they had in their possession and used a primitive code (knocked zeroes off the end of the numbers) to discuss their finances during recorded conversations?

[Baneblade]

Okay.

[ItsTheSheppy]

Money makes people act weird, that's for sure. I don't think it has any bearing on whether or not he's guilty of 2nd degree murder.

I'm expecting an acquittal, unfortunately. Manslaughter was the better charge... 2nd degree murder is a stretch and a half.

[Warborn]

It doesn't mean he's guilty in itself, but when the only living witness to a crime lies twice to the court that he hopes to prove his innocence to it certainly makes his pretty improbable story seem even more unbelievable. Plus the judge thinks he's an asshole now.

Originally Posted by Judge Kenneth Lester

“…This is a serious charge for which life may be imposed; the evidence against him is strong; he has been charged with one prior crime, for which he went through a pre-trial diversion program, and has had an injunction lodged against him,” Judge Lester wrote. “Most importantly, though, is the fact that he has now demonstrated that he does not properly respect the law or the integrity of the judicial process.”

[Zolan]

Shooting incident?

Well within the law, supported by evidence.

Not guilty.



Having committed a prior crime and pissing off the judge?

Guilty



Mars Incorporated?

Guilty of increased sales.

[Malorn]

Meh.

[Zolan]

Originally Posted by Malorn

Sixth Amendment. Jury decides outcome, not the judge.

What does that have to do with my post?

[Baneblade]

Originally Posted by Zolan

What does that have to do with my post?

The jury is still out on that.