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Old 2012-06-22, 09:40 AM   [Ignore Me] #1
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Should being revived count as a death?


In Planetside 1, if you died, a death registered on the K/D counter even if you were revived. Some other shooters do not count it as a death if you are revived. What do you think? Should being revived count as a death?

I am not talking about removing anything from the killers stats or points, just the player who was killed.

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Old 2012-06-22, 09:43 AM   [Ignore Me] #2
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Re: Should being revived not count as a death?


i'd have to vote yes. a perk to having friends playing medics they should count revives for medics as well just like k/d. advanced medics were amazing back in ps1 days.
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Old 2012-06-22, 09:44 AM   [Ignore Me] #3
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Re: Should being revived not count as a death?


One of the very few things i liked in BF3.

Having a rambo medic reviving you 10 times in a row in front of enemies ... grrrrrrr.

But in BF3 it doesn't matter.
a) The team regains the lost ticket
b) If i don't feel like i don't have to accept the revive

It's sort of a bonus for sticking around with your squad mates.


In the end - it doesn't matter.
I would remove KDR tracking completely anyways.
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Old 2012-06-22, 09:45 AM   [Ignore Me] #4
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I always wished during the merit kill streaks you could be revived to avoid having to redo. If you are revived you it shouldn't count as one imo.
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Old 2012-06-22, 09:49 AM   [Ignore Me] #5
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Re: Should being revived not count as a death?


Very odd question

Maybe they should have a revive /death counter? as medic , you revive someone , if they die again, you get a negative ratio. Would this stop you reviving people you know would only die and give you a bad rep as a medic?

See how it works both ways ?
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Old 2012-06-22, 09:55 AM   [Ignore Me] #6
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Yes. The only time it makes sense to not count as a death would be in a ticket-based system like Battlefield's conquest mode. Otherwise hell, you'll get people who refuse to revive themselves to preserve their K/D ratio and wait for a medic for a long time, taking up server space.
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Old 2012-06-22, 09:55 AM   [Ignore Me] #7
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Re: Should being revived count as a death?


Well technically, aren't we just unconscious or heavily wounded as long as we don't respawn? So if a medic "revives" me I wasn't really dead before.

People should be rewarded for holding out and waiting for a medic.
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Old 2012-06-22, 09:58 AM   [Ignore Me] #8
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Yeah I think it's a good idea. I don't think anything bad ever came from BF3 not counting it as a death if you were revived for example.
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Old 2012-06-22, 10:00 AM   [Ignore Me] #9
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Re: Should being revived count as a death?


Originally Posted by MacXXcaM View Post
Well technically, aren't we just unconscious or heavily wounded as long as we don't respawn? So if a medic "revives" me I wasn't really dead before.

People should be rewarded for holding out and waiting for a medic.
Give the medic xp for reviving you , give some xp back to you for waiting or some resource reducing bonus ,yes.

But penalising the guy that stopped you in your tracks and inhibited your team enough to make you stop what you were doing and have to revive you ? no
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Old 2012-06-22, 10:02 AM   [Ignore Me] #10
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The death should be counted as a death because it is a death.
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Old 2012-06-22, 10:07 AM   [Ignore Me] #11
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I say no death count until you re-spawn, but have a revive counter too so that people can see how many times you've been revived and do the math if they want to calculate the full number of deaths.
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Old 2012-06-22, 10:11 AM   [Ignore Me] #12
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I feel that it is a death before and after you are revived. You were brought down fair and square (even though it may not feel like it :P). Just because you were given a second chance at this particular respawn doesn't mean that you should have that statistic removed. Sure it feels horrible when you find out that you played a 16/39 k/d during this session because you were revived a bunch of times, but the fact is that you were killed (brought down to 0% HP) and the statistic should remain.

My personal opinion.
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Old 2012-06-22, 10:30 AM   [Ignore Me] #13
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No! Making it count as a death will give casual players -- i.e. COD/BF3 players who care about their KDR -- even less of an incentive to work as a team. However, making revives NOT count as a death will encourage them to stick closer to medics and their squad, as it will less likely damage their precious KDR if they go down. By showing these players the statistical benefits of playing as a team, they'll feel less inclined to go lone wolf.

In Bad Company 2, revives counted as a death and squad play was hampered as a result. Far fewer revives, and sometimes, you actually got abused by players for reviving them because it not only counted as a death, but put them back in the line of fire -- a situation they consider to be worse than respawning back at base.

I don't want to see teamwork similarly punished in PS2. So in short, DO NOT make revives count as deaths.
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Old 2012-06-22, 10:36 AM   [Ignore Me] #14
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Re: Should being revived count as a death?


I chose no, but i'm kinda thinking that it should still count as a death stat-wise if you ae not squadded with any medics...

either way, you get your gear back and save rsources. Anything that promotes squad coherency and discourages people respamming themselves at the enemy, rather than using teamwork.
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Old 2012-06-22, 10:43 AM   [Ignore Me] #15
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Re: Should being revived count as a death?


Hmm. That depends. What are we counting deaths for?

If we're talking about "should revives count against you when it comes to frequent deaths increasing your respawn timer?" I'd say no, only respawns should count against that metric. Should reviving me negate the enemy who killed me's kill? No, the guy who killed me should still be awarded a kill. Should reviving me leave the death in my K/D ratio? I don't give a shit about KDR. And so on.
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