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2012-07-11, 09:19 PM | [Ignore Me] #31 | |||
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In fact, 45 percent of American Muslims in one poll said they see evolution as "the best explanation for the origin of human life on Earth," which isn't so shabby, considering only 24 percent of evangelical Christians believed the same. The percentage of Muslims embracing the scientific explanation for the origin of life was about the same as Americans as a whole (48 percent). And historically, they have a hell of a track record. Science and math as we know it wouldn't even exist without Islam. The Islamic Golden Age caused a revolution in virtually every field of human thought, during which they fucking invented algebra -- and advanced everything from geography and exploration to the arts, architecture, philosophy, urban development, medicine and health. The Muslims actually came pretty damn close to sharing all this brilliance with the truly ass-backward kingdoms of Christian Europe, since the Islamic caliphates blanketed every country they conquered with schools, libraries, public works and the most comprehensive system of social welfare on the planet. In fact, the case has been made that if the caliphates succeeded in conquering all of Europe an Italian Renaissance would have been unnecessary. And the Muslims are the ones stuck in the past? Try again. Granted, I'm a fan of Israel. More specifically, I'm a huge fan of krav maga probably the most awesome hand-to-hand combat. And for that, Israel has my support. |
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2012-07-11, 11:42 PM | [Ignore Me] #33 | ||
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Just wanted to say I support Israel with everything and always have. They are America's close ally and we will be side by side in an attack if Iran does not comply with everything going on.
PS. I love Iran on how they say they would demolish the US Navy, which right there makes them seem weak. After the loss of the RQ-170 and saying that they brought it down by "hacking" it basically makes them look like complete fools, how drones and GPS works they can't "Hack" it the way they claim. |
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2012-07-12, 03:18 AM | [Ignore Me] #35 | ||||
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Anyway, back to the debate: "Israel to kill and abuse as many Palestinians as they want": As I have already said. It is not true. You DO NOT know what happens here each time a Palestinian is ACTUALLY dies because of the IDF. Shitstorms everywhere in the local media and lots of Israeli people protesting and stupid things like that. OK. Saying that Israel murders Palestinians or abuses them is absurd. The Palestinians who live in what you would call "legal" Israeli territories are given full israeli citizenship, full rights and have representatives in the government. Those that live in "illegal" territories, are under their own rule. Israel, NEVER attacks Palestinians UNLESS they have weapons on their hands, or bombs attached to them. They are not abused. in any way. At all. They are under their own rule, and Israel just can't abuse them in any way because of that. It is like if you said the the USA does not give citizenship and rights to people who live in France. It just makes no sense.
1. This is an avatar, and it nothing with me being Jewish, but with my other internet nickname- the mighty comrade. 2. You're no gorilla in a space suit. Yeh you can see how stupid this argument is -_-. The other things you said- it is so idiotic, I can't even believe people still believe in that. SO- you see, Palestinians, yes yes, they are given full rights, FULL CITIZEN RIGHTS, they can go to any place in Israel, without any kind of restriction, soldiers NEVER shoot peaceful Palestinians, and those are allowed freely into both Jewish religious places, and Islamic. Unlike you may think, there is full religious freedom in Israel. Oh and yes I know that from personal experience. My cousin was there, went through PALESTINIAN territories and INTO Jerusalem, she took photos of many things, some of them in front of soldiers, and was not shot even one time. CAN YOU BELIEVE IT? I have, you know look to your side and you might just see some AIR. Worst cage evar. |
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2012-07-12, 03:53 AM | [Ignore Me] #37 | ||
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Oh you mean those cages. Which are basically waiting lines, just like the ones in which you stand when you want to get to the vendor in the shop.
You see, those are borders between two autonomic territories- Israel and the Palestinian national authority. You know, just like between the USA and Mexico, or just any damn country. Israeli citizens go through the same when they want to get to the Palestinian territory. Those waiting lines exist only to check if those who cross the borders have illegal shipment on them (AKA guns bombs things like that. You can not blame Israel for doing this, and it is the same thing USA does on her borders). |
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2012-07-12, 04:01 AM | [Ignore Me] #39 | ||||
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Basically, countries like Iran still tell their people that Islam is the prime religion, and that all those who are not Islamic are sinners. The same thing happened 600 years ago in the wars between the Islamic tribes and everyone else who was not Islamic by the way. I agree, most of the Islamic countries are indeed in the same level of technological progress as western countries. And yes, krav maga is indeed awesome.
Now the problem is that, considering Israel is in the size of new jersey, you can imagine what a nuclear bomb will do to us. Basically we will be trapped here with no way to escape, and those that do not die from the explosion (1.5 KM radius) will die from the fallout, which will stretch all over Israel. That is basically why we are so afraid of Iran acquiring a nuclear bomb. Now from what I know, the military technology of Iran in any aspect other then rockets, is close to boy scouts technology, which is mostly slingshots and cardboard boxes (AKA their military tech is very old, and cannot compete with any kind of western military technology). What they do have is a GIGANTIC number of soldiers, and the worst part, is that they are suicidal. They have a whole legion designed for the purpose of running into mine fields, and clearing the mines with their own bodies. Yes, it is pretty insane. And yes, claiming that they can hack something which belongs to the USA is stupid of them. What I meant is that those cages are non-existent, so the only other option is NOTHING AT ALL. I also like the picture, it has two things I like the most- top hats and crabs. Indeed. |
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2012-07-12, 12:07 PM | [Ignore Me] #42 | ||
Except it isn't debate, I'm not offended, and you didn't counter anything. I presented some facts and you hand-waved it away as the media hating Israel and the UN being pro-Palestine and hating Israel so everyone is lying/skewing the truth. That isn't a debate. There is nothing I could say against Israel that you would accept as valid criticism.
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2012-07-12, 12:49 PM | [Ignore Me] #43 | ||||
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DEBATE 2. You see; The key word in valid criticism is valid. Your criticism is not valid. WHY? Well, because it is criticizing false facts and not based. See, each and every one of your arguments I have countered with FACTS. What I said about media, is, that you think Israel is a big poopy villain because of the media. But I countered the poopiness with facts and logic. Considering you have ignored both of them, real facts, those that you cannot possibly pull out of your ass, I would guess you did not read my replies well, or just skipped them entirely. "UN being pro-Palestine and hating Israel" I'l admit it was wrong of me to say that, but I still backed it up with YET AGAIN facts. Please come back when you decide to behave maturely. Thank you.
Nehmad lirot she gam ata komunist Last edited by MightyMan; 2012-07-12 at 12:55 PM. |
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2012-07-12, 01:51 PM | [Ignore Me] #45 | ||
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I give up. Fuck it.
You won the debate, now please don't post anything on this thread ever again, thanks! ya douche-poop I will not have access to internet for the next 3 weeks (I am dead serious), so I will not be able to reply this thread. I will necro bump this thread after I have my Internets, and we will all have fun again! |
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