Planetside 2 Footage uncovered.

[Coreldan]

I don't care so much for being an NDA police per se, what what annoys me is smartasses going around fairly direct rules set on the forums by twisting some semantics and technicalities. If Hamma has wished that these forums are not to be used for sharing footage that is under NDA, why can it not be respected instead of doing it so that it may not break a rule, but still does the exact same thing than the original thread that was closed for a very good reason?

The point that bothers me the most is trying to go around it. Being a forum moderator on other forums, it's somewhat hilarious when people try to go around the rules by doing similar technical roundabouts and then QQing when the thread gets closed or they get punished. It would work if this shit was automated, but it doesnt quite work against manual moderation

That said, I do despise people who can't respect an agreement they have agreed to follow. Now this has nothing to do with this thread per se, but the poster of the video. I think breaching an NDA or any agreement is, while first and foremost a legal thing, but also a spit to the face of SOE in this case. He gets an amazing opportunity like this and decides to breach the NDA first chance he gets, meh. As for this thread, Hamma has asked PSU not be the place to share these videos (even if the thread wouldnt directly do it, it is extremely easy thanks to this thread), but still people have to try their luck with threads like these :/

But I guess more on topic of the video content we're not supposed to talk about or share:

I would somehow like to see the turret speed limited too, in addition to the instant enter/exit and hotswapping seats being worked on.

[KTNApollo]

Originally Posted by Azren

It's still retarded. Just like the instant entry/exit, especially since it's possible with flying aircraft...

That's another thing I noticed...The Liberator hadn't even landed and he jumped right into it. All vehicles need to be stationary before you can enter them.

[TR Oakley]

Originally Posted by KTNApollo

A few things....

#1 Swapping seats on the fly - No, just, no. This is baddd. You should only be able to swap seats while landed (air vehicles) or not in motion (land vehicles). Swapping mid-flight allows 2 people to effectively run a Liberator at a high enough efficiency that having 3 people could be seen as a waste. If 4 people can operate 2 Libs quite well, why would would we want to use 6 people?

I have seen evidence of certifications that reduce seat swapping times, so it probably haven't been impemented yet, but we will have delays on everything, including entering/exiting the vehicle at launch.

#2 Turret rotation speed - Seems a bit odd for a gunship bomber turret to rotate that fast.

Yes, this is one of those things a big chunk of the community has to be vocal about for them to implement. So if people want more realistic turret turning speeds, we'll most likely get that.
Unless the devs already are planning to do it of course

#3 Model clipping - less of a problem, I'm sure it will be fixed but just throwing it out there. All sorts of model clipping going on with the gunner's view.

Beta is beta is beta

#4 Drop pods - They look kinda silly when they hit the ground and bounce back up before landing a second time. They need to implement "invisible walls" where drop pods can't fall on top of so they don't bounce off the sides of rocks and stuff.

Totalbiscuit mentioned this in one of his videoes earlier. The physics engine is not finished, and they are still working on getting everything to not bounce around ridiculously.

[Pella]

Originally Posted by Coreldan

I don't care so much for being an NDA police per se, what what annoys me is smartasses going around fairly direct rules set on the forums by twisting some semantics and technicalities. If Hamma has wished that these forums are not to be used for sharing footage that is under NDA, why can it not be respected instead of doing it so that it may not break a rule, but still does the exact same thing than the original thread that was closed for a very good reason?

The point that bothers me the most is trying to go around it. Being a forum moderator on other forums, it's somewhat hilarious when people try to go around the rules by doing similar technical roundabouts and then QQing when the thread gets closed or they get punished. It would work if this shit was automated, but it doesnt quite work against manual moderation

That said, I do despise people who can't respect an agreement they have agreed to follow. Now this has nothing to do with this thread per se, but the poster of the video.

Perhaps you should submit your complaint to points of view on the BBC?

Can't you keep on your comment on the video and the topic instead of trying to twist my idea behind this thread.

Jog on please.

[Sledgecrushr]

For me the hotswapping seats wasnt that big of a deal, it could use a tiny delay. The lib is freaking AWESOME!!! Tank busting looked like it was a piece of cake. Against air superiority fighters the liberator really seemed to shine. The rear aa gun was seemed very satisfying to fire, powerful and nice controlled bursts. Im thinking when I run into a libby Im going to want hellfire missiles equipped and come in from a higher elevation.

[KTNApollo]

Originally Posted by Sledgecrushr

For me the hotswapping seats wasnt that big of a deal, it could use a tiny delay. The lib is freaking AWESOME!!! Tank busting looked like it was a piece of cake. Against air superiority fighters the liberator really seemed to shine. The rear aa gun was seemed very satisfying to fire, powerful and nice controlled bursts. Im thinking when I run into a libby Im going to want hellfire missiles equipped and come in from a higher elevation.

Liberators are definitely going to take more than one solo fighter pilot to bring down unlike PS1...

[Firearms]

Originally Posted by Coreldan

but still does the exact same thing than the original thread that was closed for a very good reason?

I know there's always a first language thing on the forums but I think the rule about not talking about what you saw in fight club was referring to the people actually in fight club rather than the people looking in through the window.

It's good to see that you're taking it really seriously though.
{--fake removal of troll comment about APB Beta clans squeaking when they walk --}

[EisenKreutzer]

Finding the footage in question was easy.

This thread is set up specifically to discuss a video in violation of the NDA. I think this thread should be closed and/or deleted.

[Pella]

Just me or does the combat footage remind you of any other recent game you played?

[Coreldan]

Originally Posted by Pella

Just me or does the combat footage remind you of any other recent game you played?

Mostly BF3 in the vehicle mechanics, mainly the hot swapping and instant entry/exit.

Also the infantry combat/gunplay also reminds me of BF3 to a degree, but that's only a good thing for me. I really liked that in BF3, it's problems were elsewhere.

The footage lacks the population to truely feel like Planetside, so what is left is overly staring at the mechanics BF3 then again doesnt have anything "unique" to it unlike PS2, so it's all about it's mechanics

Still WTB "smart reloading", as in not cocking the weapon if there's a round in the chamber.

[Hamma]

Originally Posted by Coreldan

I don't care so much for being an NDA police per se, what what annoys me is smartasses going around fairly direct rules set on the forums by twisting some semantics and technicalities. If Hamma has wished that these forums are not to be used for sharing footage that is under NDA, why can it not be respected instead of doing it so that it may not break a rule, but still does the exact same thing than the original thread that was closed for a very good reason?

The point that bothers me the most is trying to go around it. Being a forum moderator on other forums, it's somewhat hilarious when people try to go around the rules by doing similar technical roundabouts and then QQing when the thread gets closed or they get punished. It would work if this shit was automated, but it doesnt quite work against manual moderation

That said, I do despise people who can't respect an agreement they have agreed to follow. Now this has nothing to do with this thread per se, but the poster of the video. I think breaching an NDA or any agreement is, while first and foremost a legal thing, but also a spit to the face of SOE in this case. He gets an amazing opportunity like this and decides to breach the NDA first chance he gets, meh. As for this thread, Hamma has asked PSU not be the place to share these videos (even if the thread wouldnt directly do it, it is extremely easy thanks to this thread), but still people have to try their luck with threads like these :/

But I guess more on topic of the video content we're not supposed to talk about or share:

I would somehow like to see the turret speed limited too, in addition to the instant enter/exit and hotswapping seats being worked on.

Thanks for the support man.

I've reported the original video to SOE.

Be patient guys - this footage is shit. Wait to see the actual game and the good stuff.

Attempts to bypass deletion of threads that violate the NDA will result in infractions and bans.