Phobos VX86 Pump Action Shotgun video

[Corvo]

The Uppercut is a beast- it looks like a shotgun, sounds like a shotgun and damn sure kills like one. The reload animation looks good to me and there are even additional rounds attached to the side of it.

[Ghoest9]

Ok I tried the uppercut - they probably should not have added these.

If nothing else they totally obsolete the current shot guns which isnt cool.

[Sifer2]

They obsolete all other weapons at close range cause they kill in one shot with only a small delay between shots. Only weapon that rivals it is Scattercannon's. Which hilarious enough fire faster. Basically it's like all Infantry can be almost as good as a ScatMAX now just slightly slower firing rate, and without that nice big health pool. Jackhammer, Semi Shotties, SMG's, not much point in them now. Either your using this indoors or in a MAX or your getting gibbed by them. Which is why one shot kills is bad game design.

[Ghoest9]

Originally Posted by Sifer2

They obsolete all other weapons at close range cause they kill in one shot with only a small delay between shots.

Hmmm - if you cant make sense - be quiet.


The obsolete old shotguns(when fiing pellets) - because they have the same roll.

They dont "obsolete all other weapons at close range" because that concept just shows that you dont understand the words used to form it.
Other weapons were already inferior to existing shotguns at close range - because other weapons are useful at multiple ranges - it has nothing to do with obsolescence.

[TheSaltySeagull]

I was not overly impressed by the uppercut personally. Its damage is nice(or broken depending on which side of the weapon you are on) but the small magazine and slow reload turned me off to it. There was simply to much "downtime" with the weapon for my taste where I was sitting in a corner reloading.

I think I will keep my barrage over the uppercut for the time being because it fits my play style more. That and there is a strong chance that the pump-action will be nerfed so its not a one shot kill.

[Chewy]

Originally Posted by Ghoest9

Ok I tried the uppercut - they probably should not have added these.

If nothing else they totally obsolete the current shot guns which isnt cool.

I did a small trial of the NC version (Claw I think the name is) and it seems to have a tighter spread than the Mauler with far more power. The reason I got the Mauler was due to it supposing to having the tightest spread, it's the same reason I run dual Mattocks on my MAX. Forgo a bit of damage for an extra 5 meters in kill zone range.

Now that these things outclass the Mauler in every way but ammo count and fire rate I feel kinda cheated sending 100s of certs into my mine. Hell I wouldn't have gotten the Mauler if I knew the pump actions where going to outclass it so much. I thought they where going to be a sawed off type that have more pellets, but far wider spreads.

I don't mind the new shotguns being more powerful, but giving them better range as well is OPed as hell in my eyes. And this is from a guy that defends ScatMAXes.

[Hamma]

Yea it's kind of silly these were added when voted down. Their reasoning is they were already in flight so may as well finish them.

[ChipMHazard]

I kinda imagine the reasoning being the following.
"People won't like them, but they are going to buy them... Add em!"

I really didn't think that PS2 needed any more shotguns in the game, the Jackhammer was supposed to be the one shotgun to rule all others.

[Ruffdog]

Bought the Uppercut. So this is what it's like to be on the giving end of a splattermax.

[Rasui]

Increase refire/reload rate to 1.2 seconds a shell and these should be balanced.