PS2 confirmed to only have servers in one area of USA

[Eyeklops]

Originally Posted by SKYeXile

hes right, i dont know about fully killing somebody before they know what hit them, but you can certainly kill somebody before they react or given 200ms ping, kill them before you get the packet of their reaction.

THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS. Higher bandwidth and all the magic algorithms in the world cannot fix the time skew that happens in favor of the "in motion" attacker vs the "stationary" defender. I am the attacker, and the defender is stationary. I come around a corner, or out of cover and open fire. What I see is the defender sitting still for AT LEAST his ping time. It's not even possible for him to react faster than that because he hasn't even got the packets that I am visible yet. Now if I stay in motion I have a HUGE advantage in that my target was stationary ping+reaction, while I was in motion the entire time. I have an average reaction time of 193ms. Think about that. 150MS ping + 200ms reaction = motionless target for 350ms, that a long time in the FPS world.

[Phellix]

Originally Posted by elfailo

Wow, "play something else then"...really? Are you really so daft to think SOE would like it if loads of players decided to play something else?

It's a BAD decision. Particularly for EC US players, as they don't have other options. It's bad for everyone else because they have fewer options too. WC US players can play on a server that's close to home, but what if they're in a clan with people from all over the world? They can't pick something that is acceptable to all anymore; some of their members are simply screwed.

Just admit that it's a bad decision for all customers and stop trying to rationalize it. You can't keep lying to yourself forever.

They haven't confirmed anything yet. Just stop.

[Karmic Revenge]

Originally Posted by elfailo

Wow, "play something else then"...really? Are you really so daft to think SOE would like it if loads of players decided to play something else?

Would SOE prefer people not play their game than to whine and cry and stop and generally turn the atmosphere into something resembling Blizzard's forums?

Maybe. You'd have to ask them.

My general premise here is that if something is going to make you rage so hard you can't see straight you (for your own sake) shouldn't play it.

I am telling you, point blank, that playing PS (with all it's ancient code) over very long distances was absolutely, perfectly, wonderfully enjoyable.

I think that maybe trying it before declaring that the sky is falling down and we are all doomed is in order.

If your choice is between a better developed game (more developers) or a game with better servers (more hardware) which do you choose? Personally, I choose developers. You may have other priorities.

[Malorn]

They haven't said where the servers will be.

Lot of over-reacting in this thread and people making silly assumptions.

[Eyeklops]

Originally Posted by Karmic Revenge

I am telling you, point blank, that playing PS (with all it's ancient code) over very long distances was absolutely, perfectly, wonderfully enjoyable.

You must have the reaction time of a highed up sloth if you can stand playing any FPS with very high ping.

[SKYeXile]

Originally Posted by Karmic Revenge

Would SOE prefer people not play their game than to whine and cry and stop and generally turn the atmosphere into something resembling Blizzard's forums?

Maybe. You'd have to ask them.

My general premise here is that if something is going to make you rage so hard you can't see straight you (for your own sake) shouldn't play it.

I am telling you, point blank, that playing PS (with all it's ancient code) over very long distances was absolutely, perfectly, wonderfully enjoyable.

I think that maybe trying it before declaring that the sky is falling down and we are all doomed is in order.

If your choice is between a better developed game (more developers) or a game with better servers (more hardware) which do you choose? Personally, I choose developers. You may have other priorities.

Playing BF3 (with all it's modern) over very long distances was absolutely, perfectly, wonderfully enjoyable. But yet, its nothing when compared to playing on a local 30ms server.

[SKYeXile]

Originally Posted by Malorn

They haven't said where the servers will be.

Lot of over-reacting in this thread and people making silly assumptions.

its irrelevant where they plan to be, its the fact that they plan to do it.

[Karmic Revenge]

Originally Posted by Eyeklops

You must have the reaction time of a highed up sloth.

You got me.

I am also a terrible shot.

Oh no, wait, again that's all those TR blokes with the 1000 round magazines so they might actually kill someone.

I wonder how many of you even know what an LPB vs. HPB is, and how many were HPBs. Those of us who have been playing games for longer than the last couple of years have dealt with far, far worse situations than what a wussy little cross-continental hop places on us these days.

14.4k modems playing Quake or Half-Life, baby. After that it's all sunshine and roses.

You just learn to play differently.

(Of course, some people also like to have excuses for when they die or don;t get a killshot . . . that's your ego. Let it go. It's a game, not life or death.)

[Bags]

To those of you saying "You don't know what they're doing" you're right, we don't. Which is why RadarX should be in here clarifying.

[Karmic Revenge]

Originally Posted by SKYeXile

Playing BF3 (with all it's modern) over very long distances was absolutely, perfectly, wonderfully enjoyable. But yet, its nothing when compared to playing on a local 30ms server.

And yet at the end of the day you still get to throw bullets at people and run around with your friends. If that's not enough for people, they should consider playing something that is.

I will ask you the same thing. If you had to choose between more developers making the game better, or more hardware on release, making the game more wide-spread, which would you choose?

Money is not infinite. SOE has limited resources. Which would you rather they do with what they've got?

[Karmic Revenge]

Originally Posted by Bags

To those of you saying "You don't know what they're doing" you're right, we don't. Which is why RadarX should be in here clarifying.

At 10:30PM?

Why? Because you said so?

[Otleaz]

Originally Posted by Karmic Revenge

Money is not infinite. SOE has limited resources. Which would you rather they do with what they've got?

How bout some east coast servers so my international clan doesn't completely ignore this game, leaving me to play it alone?

[Bags]

Originally Posted by Karmic Revenge

At 10:30PM?

Why? Because you said so?

I made the thread at 3:20pm.

[SKYeXile]

Originally Posted by Karmic Revenge

And yet at the end of the day you still get to throw bullets at people and run around with your friends. If that's not enough for people, they should consider playing something that is.

I will ask you the same thing. If you had to choose between more developers making the game better, or more hardware on release, making the game more wide-spread, which would you choose?

Money is not infinite. SOE has limited resources. Which would you rather they do with what they've got?

is this a serious question? given SOEs track record of releasing amazing games then fucking them with continued development im gonna have to go with more server locations, no brainer.

[Karmic Revenge]

Originally Posted by Bags

I made the thread at 3:20pm.

So in your expert opinion with less than 3 hours left in a "normal" working day (I won't deny the industry is not normal) there should have been a reply by now.

You, knowing nothing of the day's activities or RadarX's whereabouts or responsibilities at present, have determined beyond a reasonable doubt that this should have happened, and BY THE GODS this is not ok . . .

Maybe you should relax and be patient?

If RadarX doesn't know the answer to something there can;t be an answer posted. If for any reason people are really busy in the days after E3 and leading up to Beta (it will be here soon, remember) and don't have time to get a straight answer within a couple of hours, or even a couple of days, that's the way it is.

. . . O.o

And in any case, if that answer comes back and is not what you want to hear I still strongly suggest that you try it and see before you condemn it. *shrug*