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Old 2003-07-27, 06:49 PM   [Ignore Me] #16
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Originally posted by ghost018
When we did it we didn't have 40% of the server population behind us. It seems like the NC should have done it at least once by now, seeing as to how they had the most players (ala Jackhammer) for several weeks back before the latest patch.

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PS: When I said it would never happen again, I was talking about another Terran victory. I didn't think I would have to spell it out a second time after another Terran player did in a reply to the original thread. The organization or lack there of is what tends to kill us, not to mention the population sizes.
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Old 2003-07-27, 07:53 PM   [Ignore Me] #17
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If you're under the impression that a lasher takes less skill than 2 pounder maxes, well, then I'm not even going to bother talking to you.
Last i checked pounders deal damage to teammates, two idiots with lashers can spam all they want and will almost never hit each other, two pounders actually have to check their fire depending on the situation.

Edit: i should also compliment you on the INSANE amount of skill it took to run us all over with a magrider on our first run
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Old 2003-07-27, 07:59 PM   [Ignore Me] #18
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Well, I'm NC, and I had fun yesterday (there was a particular bridge battle on Searhus where we encountered TR infantry, one of the best open-field actions I've seen in awhile), so that's all that matters to me. Stats are just icing.
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Old 2003-07-27, 08:08 PM   [Ignore Me] #19
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Originally posted by Incompetent
Last i checked pounders deal damage to teammates, two idiots with lashers can spam all they want and will almost never hit each other, two pounders actually have to check their fire depending on the situation.

Edit: i should also compliment you on the INSANE amount of skill it took to run us all over with a magrider on our first run
Personally, I would like to note that I was duly impressed that you and your teammates thought that rushing a tank with small-arms weapons was a good idea. As opposed to running in the back door, you made the unique decision to assume that perhaps this single magrider was constructed of corrugated cardboard and plastic. I salute your tactical genius and mourn your messy death.

If you're telling me that two pounders standing next to each other have to check their fire to make sure they aren't, by chance, firing directly into the ground, or, say, at a small bug on the other MAX's visor, instead of down the hallway which was occupied by no TR, perhaps it's time to take some physics classes. If two pounders at the top of a back door can't kill two VS infantry with decimators and you attribute it to the infantry being lucky n00bs, then, sorry, you're clueless.
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Old 2003-07-27, 08:11 PM   [Ignore Me] #20
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Bridge battles are the best battles
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Old 2003-07-27, 08:15 PM   [Ignore Me] #21
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Originally posted by Arakiel
Tearing maxes apart with a decimator and landing them both at the same time is "coordination."

Shrug, you took the base after we left because the servers were downed.

If you're under the impression that a lasher takes less skill than 2 pounder maxes, well, then I'm not even going to bother talking to you.

Your flippant "noob" comment was, to say the least, foolish.
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Old 2003-07-27, 09:18 PM   [Ignore Me] #22
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Personally, I would like to note that I was duly impressed that you and your teammates thought that rushing a tank with small-arms weapons was a good idea.
I don't think anyone even fired a single shot at you, only one of us even GOT to the back door, i'm suprised you even bothered to shoot him, because your talking like you don't know you ran over two of us within spitting distance of it.
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Old 2003-07-27, 10:11 PM   [Ignore Me] #23
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Shrug, you took the base after we left because the servers were downed.

If you're under the impression that a lasher takes less skill than 2 pounder maxes, well, then I'm not even going to bother talking to you.

Your flippant "noob" comment was, to say the least, foolish
Hey, I didn't come back after the servers went down.

Yes, the lasher does take less skill, pounders can't surge, pounders can be dropped in oh, 1 second with a decimator. They're slow and not nearly as effective when moving and not locked down.

As for my 'noob' comment, that weapon is noobish, your not a noob but that doesn't make that weapon any less skilless or noobish.

It still hits people when it misses meaning that aiming is a secondary requirement. Noobs aren't good at aiming so this is perfect for them.

It doesn't have any damage fall off over range unlike every other weapon in the game, yet another noob friendly feature.

It hits every target for the same damage irregardless if it's a tank, max, sunderer, ams, whatever. Noobs don't have to worry about having the right weapon for the task. The lasher is a workable weapon for every task.

It's the only AOE spam weapon in the game without grief problems. So unlike the pounder a noob won't get weapons lock with this gun.

It's an extremely noobie friendly gun, I'm surprised you don't see that.

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Old 2003-07-27, 11:17 PM   [Ignore Me] #24
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Every single weapon in this game is newbie-friendly and that's largely why the game is doomed. There's very little learning curve. The difference lies with being able to use the weapons to their full extent.

I've never denied that the lasher is newbie-friendly. I think the MCG is slightly more newbie-friendly but less effective in skilled hands, but, again, that's another thread.

Incompetent, I used the mag to drive there from the sanc. Past that initial mag run, I didn't use one. I know for a fact that after my initial pass past the back door, there were cyclers and MCG users standing there looking like targets firing at me instead of rushing the back door.

But, anyway, this is a bit of a thread derail. Just don't call me a noob seemingly randomly and we're all good. :P
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Old 2003-07-28, 12:02 AM   [Ignore Me] #25
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The lasher will be toned down, I just hope it doesent take them a month to realise its overpowed like the JH
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Old 2003-07-28, 12:29 AM   [Ignore Me] #26
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is every thread that has the letters "VS" going to end up being about he Lasher
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Old 2003-07-28, 01:12 AM   [Ignore Me] #27
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Old 2003-07-28, 01:24 AM   [Ignore Me] #28
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Originally posted by Hamma
The lasher will be toned down, I just hope it doesent take them a month to realise its overpowed like the JH
ok.... so youve called every ha weapon thats not your own overpowered. no i seriously think the lasher needs a tone down, if it gets within a mile of you, your hurt.
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Old 2003-07-28, 01:55 AM   [Ignore Me] #29
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JH should be basically bursting death between 0-25m(at this point it is effective up to 30 with a small penalty past that)

MCG should be chain death between 25-50m(at this moment it is about as powerful as JH in close range, and i know that for a fact because ive lost a reinforced exo vs reinforced exo with a JH from standstill 8m, and this was before they closed its COF)

Lasher should have a large lash area but should BARELY be useable indoors for that reason. It should take more then 1 clip to kill a MAX, and it should be able to rip the fuck out of tanks. Range shouldnt be the issue with it, it should be its versatality. Firing a little less then a clip at any soft target other then point blank should kill them. Question:say you shoot a lasher at someone point blank, does the lash hit the person who shot it? I havent got to test this to see.

I havent really played the game because frankly this was a whiners way to go by SOE. This is much different then the MAXs, which were statistically and obviously slaughtermachines. The JH(the cause of all this shit) was an effective instant kill indoors. Now the MCG can kill u outside or inside in about the same time period, and the lasher can destroy maxs and infantry about as fast.

VS has too much of a weight on their side now, and i was already tired of gettin lagridered, sniped with lancers, and lashed, so of course make it better.

Now, can we hope to see the neccessary changes to striker and pheonix, and fix the damn AA VC MAX? No, because no ones bitching about the obvious flaws.
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Old 2003-07-28, 02:23 PM   [Ignore Me] #30
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Originally posted by Onizuka
ok.... so youve called every ha weapon thats not your own overpowered. no i seriously think the lasher needs a tone down, if it gets within a mile of you, your hurt.
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