Budget cuts! HAHAHA NO RIFLE FOR YOU!

[Ait'al]

They still have rounds of the stuff to show. Crapploads of them, they dont use them though. there not neccesarily usefull anymore. If you say him hold it with his bare hands that the tip off. Used to have tons of htems not sure now.

Just think of how many science teachers have had some uranium in there class somewhere. People like samples. 8)

[Firefly]

This report is flawed or misinformed.

The M4 is a smaller version of the M16. Not every US Solder has an M4, but EVERY soldier will have an M16. Tankers would be getting the M4 because it's smaller. If you've ever been in the turret of an Abrams, you know why that would be more ideal. It's not exactly roomy in there. Think of a Yugo. Think of fifty clowns at the circus. Shrink it down and that's your turret.

What is being reported, and what is true, is that US Soldiers are collecting and using the AK47 because a) it's more widely-used there, b) there is more access to ammo for it, and c) the AK variants being seen there are "para" versions- also known as the AKSU... which are roughly the size of the M4.

http://www.airsoftextreme.com/images/aksu1.jpg

And yes, National Guard and Reserve units get hand-me-down equipment. It's been that way for the last fifty years, why all of a sudden is everyone concerned? Combat units are generally given priority IF they deploy. If a Guard unit deploys, they generally trade in their CUCV vehicles for a Humvee. If they have tracks, they trade them in for better ones.

As far as the M60 goes... all of the weapons we have in our inventories are retro-fitted. So even if the weapon was manufactured for Vietnam, it has been upgraded. And if you have any common sense (and the endurance and stamina)at all, you'll take an M60 over most other weapons. Carrying the PIG isn't something for everyone, it's not as light as a rifle. But it fires a 7.62 round as opposed to the M16 round, it's automatic, and it's a nasty motherfucker to die by. I would rather carry the -60 than a stupid rifle. I am a big boy and can adequately handle the load.

Oh, and it's not M119- it's M113. The M119 is a towed howitzer (artillery), not an armored personnel carrier.

M119:
http://sill-www.army.mil/pao/photos/feb801/M119.JPG

M113:
http://www.israeli-weapons.com/weapo...m-113/m113.jpg

[Peacemaker]

/me claps for Firefly

Excelent job shutting this down. Foolish people with their misinfo jumping to conclusions.

m4 is the equivilant of the Ak47, it has the 30 round clip and fully auto. The m16 has a 15 (maybe 16 i frgt its been a while) round clip and is alot more accurate. Infact some snipers use the M16 over any other rifle.

[NightWalker XI]

The USA out of money....teh li3!

:P

[SecondRaven]

All i know is if Clinton did not have the millitary cut we would not be in this problem....Ohwell i know my bro who is in the army has this werid ass gun (remids me of the RC-P90's on goldeneye) atleat thats what i saw in the picture. Anyone have anyclue of what it is?

[Sputty]

Originally Posted by SecondRaven

All i know is if Clinton did not have the millitary cut we would not be in this problem....Ohwell i know my bro who is in the army has this werid ass gun (remids me of the RPC 90 on goldeneye) atleat thats what i saw in the picture. Anyone have anyclue of what it is?

What problem? There is no problem. Some people are picking up AKs because they prefer the more automatic style of gun for urban combat. Clinton didn't give M-16A2s to everyone.
No idea what gun it is

[SecondRaven]

Clinton did a cut for the millitary...so i concider that problem...today we need that millitary

[NightWalker XI]

WTF you need the military foor?

Wait...don't tell me you are planning on global domination *gasp*

Get a grip, are you going to take on the whole of the Middle Eats, methinks not

*yes, I am war*

[Sputty]

Originally Posted by SecondRaven

Clinton did a cut for the millitary...so i concider that problem...today we need that millitary

Actually, the cut was because we didn't need it. The cold war's over

[SecondRaven]

But now we do need it, i mean with the North Korea thing getting out of hand..and the middle ease confict still in progress..

[Sputty]

Originally Posted by SecondRaven

But now we do need it, i mean with the North Korea thing getting out of hand..and the middle ease confict still in progress..

It's not like the military is tiny. And USSR had a much more powerful military than NK. The middle east is mainly an urban situation anyway.

[SecondRaven]

USSR isnt that called Russia now? (heh i hated US Class) and great Russia has a huge army...ya they are on our side...for what we know...but still i would like to see...bah i dont know my head hurts now...

[arctik]

I think our army is powerfull enough already, budget cuts wouldnt have really be a problem. We need to start putting money into making society better rather than spending it on a war. Sorry but I would like to go to school and get a good education not hear about Americans dieng and money wasted on a new gun or hover craft/plane.

[Dharkbayne]

Ak-47's are also better on Rainbow Six 3 and Americas Army, hehe

[Ait'al]

Yea like more money for schools and social secureity. If youve never worked and you are dilabled you get crap for money. We need another program. Dont wrry the proccess for geting on it now is goot enough to stop people from getting on it who dont need to. Unless Phyciatrist all go nuts and start lying constantly.

(Once again Social security is a grant system with local/state measures to hand it out. Its not socialism. It just seems like one with how everyone talks about it. You have to do all the same things you do in a grant you do here. Because it is a grant.)

Wait, we need more money to pay people smal amounts of money on a local lv to wathc our schools and keep htem in check. People in hte community and from a local fund with minimum pay and minimum Requirement with a place to report things to to get rid of stupid htings like the new crappy text book or bad use rules. So common sense can decide things again and not have the idiot principles out there who went took a bussiness management class and jumped to being a principle deciding everything.

Sorry. Ive been doing this alot lately.