Stay the **** back.

[HunterStrangler]

I would like to be able to at least turn it off while I am "stealthing". Sometimes I need to run across the battlefield to circle around an enemy. I totally understand when I get hit because it is friggin hard to see me and I am running through a sh*t storm. I would like to at least have the option to turn Grief off when I am stealthing.

Oh and Hello, My name is Hunter and I am a Planetside Addict.

[Madcow]

The grief system is fine as it is. Yes, it sucks to get run over by somebody while you're in stealth gear. Yes, it sucks to know they got grief and you got grief (and got killed) most likely on accident. What are we talking? 5 grief points?
The people complaining are the people who are so careless they've had to sit battles out with weapons lock. Stop being careless, stop thinking you're the most important soldier around, watch the grief stop accumulating. This is the easiest fix in Planetside, because the devs don't need to do a thing. You do.

[Veteran]

There are people who do nothing but TK. When one server is locked for them, they move on to the next. The grief system has to account for radically different types of people, and frankly I think it does a pretty good job. I was a Pounder operator before it got gimped and I rarely went above 50 grief.

[Queensidecastle]

I concur. For BR11 and 375 kills to be grief locked, you are shooting at absolutly anything and everything that moves. You just cant play the game like that, and that is one reason the grief system is in place.

As an infiltrator, I get killed by my own team more than the enemy kills me. I dont get upset about this because its just the way it is. I will be sneaking up to a hack or seting up a boomer attack and some grunt rushes in and spam thumper plasmas the whole room. Sooner or later people that do that will grief lock so I feel satisfied even tho it can be very annoying.

Very often, you will get grief that you dont deserve. I was playing my grunt the other day and was on a hill. Found an AMS and was sniping it with decimators from very far. Well, someone hacked it right before my missle that was in the air slammed into it killing like 5 ppl. So on the HUD you see me killing one of our own AMSs and taking out several people. I got a couple of rude tells but it wasnt my fault. Shit happens sometimes.

Some jackass in a lightning killed me 3 times last night spamming a tower wildly while I was trying to get in to hack it. There was basically just a MAX floating around but the lightning driver just didnt give a shit. Fine, kill me several times trying to get in the door for your MAX kill while the tower doesnt get hacked as a result. Infiltrators can easily slip past MAXs and vehicles should ALWAYS yield to troops that need to enter a doorway.

[InfiniteStorm]

Originally Posted by Madcow

(or experience one heck of a bug)

This actually happened to an outfit member of mine. He went LD and had about 150-200 grief when it happened. As soon as they logged back on they said "wtf, all of a sudden I get a message saying if I take anymore grief my account will be deleted and my grief is at 2400" So he logged off to see if it would go away, and when they relogged, it was at 2460. Somewhere in the realm between the PS world and our own, he was getting grief. He reported it and I haven't heard back from him since.

[SweetTater]

I think if you get grief when you are LD (i.e. driving along, go LD, and plow through a bunch of friendlies), you can appeal it and the CSRs will sometimes take the grief off.

I'm a spec assault/thresher driver and I've never had above 400 grief. The only time I got close was when I fired a single rocklet at an enemy ams that was getting pounded and I got the kill. +124 grief in a single shot. Now whenever I see an enemy AMS getting pounded, I back away and let the others get the kills and the grief. If you are constantly getting grief in a base, don't use the arrow keys to control your speed. Hit the 1 key to drive at 10% and you shouldn't get grief if you bump someone since you are going so slow. Once you are outside the base, accelerate to full speed. Since magriders have no brakes, start braking way ahead of time when you are pulling into a friendly base.