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Old 2003-12-02, 01:15 PM   [Ignore Me] #16
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Originally Posted by Lilbird2431
nope dont like that idea at all. I just ditched reinforced because i realized that especially in a tower fight, surging in agile is much more effective. You'd be suprrised I got 10 max kills in one tower fight by surging with a decimator. My loadout now is an MCG three ammo boxes and 2 decis, also i ahve one with a sniper rifle and an MCG, thumper/deci, rocklet/deci and a few others that are just variations. I love my MCG so if they make rexo a prerequisite i will not be happy.
thats becaues your the warpy bitch that everyone is complaining about . Probably not as bad as the people that do warp on purpose. I am not disclosing here how to do it but that is the reason why surge is being fixed. You got rid of Reinf Exo because it was easier, ie: takes a lot less skill to own people that barely know your there. C'mon why use skill to kill when it takes less to be cheesy?

I believe both options that sony has need to happen. Surge was intended as a quick escape used mainly by infiltrators...not as a means of a quick attack. No weapons out while surging(even though surge will still help you JH people to get close) will cause people like Kik to actually go back to the intended way to own people(requiring some sort of skill).

Reinf + HA needs to happen as well. It will severely lower the number of players that use it and if not at least force the n00bs that were to get it right off the bat to get some field experience before they can get it.
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Old 2003-12-02, 01:20 PM   [Ignore Me] #17
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AWWWW! Poor babies.Whats the matter? Can't stand the thought of not being able mow down other players without your HA weapons? Try using MA weapons like all us skilled players. I prefer to work for my kills thank you very much.

Nothing more staisfying then killing 3 JH n00bs with a cycler!
Wow. This is one of the most ignorant posts I've ever read. I'm not going to bother with much of a flame, other than to say, your opinion means little, based on your br and total kills.

On to the topic. Requiring rexo for HA would be another nail in the coffin for this game. Yes, many, many people hate surging-agile-HA users. But this would be a very dramatic change that is not necessary to fix the issue. Too many people don't like rexo, and may or may not even use surge with their HA. It would piss off alot of people, and that's the last thing this game needs. I think SOE and the community needs to reserve judgement on this until after the warping fix goes live. Let's see if it helps out enough, then talk about further steps necessary. If it comes to it, I hope the only surge nerf is minimal, as any nerf of any kind is inherently evil, and only promotes frustration and hurts the game.

SAY NO TO NERFS!
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Old 2003-12-02, 02:11 PM   [Ignore Me] #18
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Damn i hope they implement a rexo req for HA, would be so nice.
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Old 2003-12-03, 03:51 AM   [Ignore Me] #19
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Doesn't bother me. I already have this combo paid for
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Old 2003-12-03, 02:28 PM   [Ignore Me] #20
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AWWWW! Poor babies.Whats the matter? Can't stand the thought of not being able mow down other players without your HA weapons? Try using MA weapons like all us skilled players. I prefer to work for my kills thank you very much.
How appropriate that this:
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is in your sig.

Gee, I wonder why you'd ever get flamed. Jackass.
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Old 2003-12-03, 02:53 PM   [Ignore Me] #21
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It just cracks me up that people feel that HA should cost more then a tank. I am a surge user (i dont have HA never liked it much) and personaly dont want to see it going away, it's too handy just for getting around. In other news I whould like to see Reinforced go down in price as it's also pretty much a requirement for antivehicle.
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Old 2003-12-03, 04:40 PM   [Ignore Me] #22
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you now what i don't care becaue i already have Reinforced, but i droped the JH i need those 4 certs badly
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Old 2003-12-03, 05:49 PM   [Ignore Me] #23
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Come off it Sony, HA isn't even worth the 4 certs it costs now! Sure it has the highest time-to-kill of all weapons, but to counter-balance that it is severely gimped so that it is only usable at short range. Making Re-Exo a prerequisite would not only be unfair, it would make absolutely no sense. What other weapon has a suit of armor as a pre-req? What a lame idea that was.

If they can't fix the cheats, then I suppose making you put your weapon away before surging is about the only sane thing they can do. Making a ridiculous set of prerequisites for one lousy shotgun/chaingun/whatever would alienate too many people, and wtf are they thinking shutting down servers and thinking they can nerf everyone's favourite weapons?

NERF THE NERF BAT!!!!
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Old 2003-12-03, 06:43 PM   [Ignore Me] #24
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HA is lame, get rid of it.
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Old 2003-12-03, 06:47 PM   [Ignore Me] #25
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Do you say that because you think are so skilled with Medium Assault, that anyone with Heavy is a n00b? If you are so skilled, keep killing HA users and gloat amongst yourselves.
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Old 2003-12-03, 06:50 PM   [Ignore Me] #26
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It's really not fair to lable all Heavy Assault users n00bs, even if some of them are. While triple-barreled shotguns, energy rifles, and chainguns may be atrractive to a lot of n00bs, so are flying gunships, massive tanks, and invisibility suits. A good deal of players, be they VS, NC, or TR, use HA: not because they are n00bs, but because HA weapons have a purpose that they fulfill well: high-cost, close range weapons that are among the most destructive in the game. Generalizing like some of you are is just as ridiculous as labelling all infiltrators as cowardly, unskilled players.
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Old 2003-12-03, 06:54 PM   [Ignore Me] #27
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HA weapons are to easy to use, anyone can pick it up and kill people, which sucks.

When you give it to a good player it is overpowered...
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Old 2003-12-03, 07:06 PM   [Ignore Me] #28
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Bullshit! HA is not *easy* to use. Jackhammer requires consistent aim and timing to do any damage. MCG requires good aim, limited mobility and CoF control. Lasher requires skill to lead your target appropriately, it takes CoF control, and is still slower to kill than the other HA weapons.

Let us look at the Medium Assault weapons. Sweeper reauires good aim and timing to do any damage, takes 1 or 2 more shells to kill than a Jackhammer. Punisher requires CoF control, and a miracle from God to kill a full health enemy. Cycler, Pulsar and Gauss all require CoF control (which often means limited mobility), and only take a few extra bullets to get the take down.

Meh. People will complain about anything if it kills them enough times.

PS: Having new players log on and start getting kills is a good thing, last time I checked. Or are you dreaming of the day when all 3 servers are merged together and the largest outfit left in the game has 20 guys in it?
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Old 2003-12-03, 07:32 PM   [Ignore Me] #29
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No, those are things that you do to be good.

A 7day trial guy can hold fire down and kill some guys, have you not seen those spam whores?
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Old 2003-12-03, 10:57 PM   [Ignore Me] #30
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I'll say it again, How about we give everyone Bows and arrows, the TR can be the Indians, the NC can be the Americans, and the VS can be the British. We'll run around shooting each other with arrows.
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