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Old 2004-11-19, 11:05 AM   [Ignore Me] #16
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i don't get this thread.

i gather that mr vicchio feels that homosexual innuendo ruins a feature film?
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Old 2004-11-19, 11:10 AM   [Ignore Me] #17
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Basically... not that it shouldn't have been expected...
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Old 2004-11-19, 11:22 AM   [Ignore Me] #18
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All because someone is uncomfortable watching two men kissing does not make them a Homophobe

The Fact that Alexander was probably Bi should be in little dispute to anyone who understnds Greek history It was thought that you were more likely to fight hard if the man next to you was polishing your pole. Gave incentive to win because... and everyone knows this... men think with their penises!

However I can understand why in todays age people would be less then comfortable!

My wife, a very liberal Psychologist who has worked with GLBT groups nationwide, wrote her dissertation on attitudes towards non-fatal Suicidal Behaviour in the GLBT comunity, and overall is the most accepting person of the Gay lifestyle known to man... will not see this movie for the exact same reason, watching men kiss makes her feel ill.

Now I know Homophobe is the new Racist as ar as quick terms to throw around, but let's try to restrain ourselves a little and have an open mind.


BTW

I'll go see Alexander because there is a fair to better chance of Angelina Jolie being naked... and that would make up for an entire pile of Gay men!
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Old 2004-11-19, 11:30 AM   [Ignore Me] #19
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You know, you can go see the movie still and just close your eyes when the two guys swap spit!
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Old 2004-11-19, 11:42 AM   [Ignore Me] #20
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Originally Posted by martyr
i don't get this thread.

i gather that mr vicchio feels that homosexual innuendo ruins a feature film?

I'm sorry, its wrong to have an aversion to somethings?

I don't like pointless gratuitious violence either, does that make me a "violent-phobe"?

Please.

This thread was to bring this up, and see what people thought about it. So far its mostly "Vic's a homophobe because he isn't into watching movies where guys kiss."

I didn't say the movie was ruined, but its not my thing, and others may or may not feel the same way.


Whats funny, I have the Rocky Horror Picture Show, love that movie, one of my favorites, but an action movie, with guys getting that close. I think its ouf of place in such. I don't want to see the "Rock" go save his gay lover and then make out, but then, seeing Frankenfurter with a shotgun would be equally out of place.
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Old 2004-11-19, 12:29 PM   [Ignore Me] #21
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i never even remotely said - anywhere - that it was wrong to have an aversion to anything.

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Old 2004-11-19, 02:36 PM   [Ignore Me] #22
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I wasn't calling you a homophob, just was saying that that one scene won't keep me from watching the movie.
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Old 2004-11-19, 02:43 PM   [Ignore Me] #23
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I didn;'t mean to imply you were Ivan, sorry you felt that was at you.
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Old 2004-11-19, 02:48 PM   [Ignore Me] #24
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Originally Posted by MrVicchio
I didn;'t mean to imply you were Ivan, sorry you felt that was at you.
I didn't feel that way, just reemphasizing what I was saying.
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Old 2004-11-19, 04:48 PM   [Ignore Me] #25
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As long as Angelina Jolie has a naked scene I can put up with 2 guys making out.
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Old 2004-11-19, 04:50 PM   [Ignore Me] #26
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As long is the movie doesn't suck, I can put up with anything.
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Old 2004-11-19, 05:08 PM   [Ignore Me] #27
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Seriously - if I can sit through "Hellboy", I'm sure this one would be a walk in the park
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Old 2004-11-19, 05:20 PM   [Ignore Me] #28
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Originally Posted by Triggar
Seriously - if I can sit through "Hellboy", I'm sure this one would be a walk in the park
/me sudders in horror.

I think I'd rather be brutally beaten than watch that again.

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Old 2004-11-19, 06:32 PM   [Ignore Me] #29
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Originally Posted by MrVicchio
I'm squimish sorry Hezzy, watching grown men kissing...

remember that adam sandler flick, where the two gay lovers kissed? Uhg. Or Basketball.. that was terrible.

I just... squirm when I see such.
EDIT: Or not....

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Old 2004-11-19, 07:03 PM   [Ignore Me] #30
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Update of sorts, lawsuits are flying.

http://www.reuters.com/newsArticle.j...toryID=6871038

ATHENS (Reuters) - A group of Greek lawyers are threatening to sue Warner Bros. film studios and Oliver Stone, director of the widely anticipated film "Alexander," for suggesting Alexander the Great was bisexual.

The lawyers have already sent an extrajudicial note to the studio and director demanding they include a reference in the title credits saying his movie is a fictional tale and not based on official documents of the life of the Macedonian ruler.

"We are not saying that we are against gays but we are saying that the production company should make it clear to the audience that this film is pure fiction and not a true depiction of the life of Alexander," Yannis Varnakos, who spearheads the campaign by 25 lawyers, told Reuters on Friday.

Stone was quoted on the MSNBC.com Web Site as telling the upcoming edition of Playboy magazine that the film's depiction of Alexander could offend some.

"We go into his bisexuality. It may offend some people, but sexuality in those days was a different thing," he was quoted as saying.

While the film starring Colin Farrell and Angelina Jolie will be released on Nov. 24, Varnakos said he has already gathered enough information regarding the content of the movie to suggest there are "inappropriate references."

"We have not seen the film but from the information we have already there are references to his alleged homosexuality, a fact that is in no historical document or archive on Alexander," he said. "Either they make it clear that this is a work of fiction or we will take the case further."

This is not the first time Greeks have been angered by suggestions Alexander was homosexual and had affairs with young men.

Two years ago hundreds of northern Greeks from the province of Macedonia, where he was born, stormed an archeological symposium after one speaker presented a paper on the homosexuality of Alexander. Police were called in to evacuate the participants.

One of the greatest military leaders of all time, Alexander, who was never defeated in battle, conquered about 90 percent of the then-known world before his mysterious death at the age of 32, building an empire that stretched from the Mediterranean to Afghanistan.

Varnakaos said as Stone has the right to freely express himself, the audience should have the right to know.

"We cannot come out and say that (former U.S.) President John F. Kennedy was a shooting guard for the Los Angeles Lakers basketball team and so Warner cannot come out and say Alexander was gay," Varnakos said.
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