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2012-03-25, 07:53 AM | [Ignore Me] #16 | ||
by forcing them to make additional accounts to try out other empires.
the spys will do it anyways. so why force the other players to do so as well? it has no benefit at all the 24 hours lockdown will be enough to keep normal players from hopping too much. spys will use seperate accounts anyway, so restricting the account to 1 faction does no good
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2012-03-25, 08:07 AM | [Ignore Me] #17 | |||
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especially if it ends up on steam like higby has said, you'd have to have 3 steam accounts and fully log out each visit
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2012-03-25, 08:09 AM | [Ignore Me] #18 | ||
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Umm.. guys.. requiring another account to spy won't reduce the amount of spying, since nobody will spy with the account their main is on.
Spying is absurdly overrated anyway. Practice some opsec. Hopefully the single empire restriction is lifted. If the game can't handle people picking the side they want to play on, then it is poorly designed. Last edited by CutterJohn; 2012-03-25 at 08:12 AM. |
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2012-03-25, 08:39 AM | [Ignore Me] #22 | ||
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I do with my TF2 accounts, why would this be any different?
but regardless this isn't really the crux of the argument, the more important bit i whether it would punish normal players and not affect spys in the slightest way
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2012-03-25, 08:40 AM | [Ignore Me] #23 | ||
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I could've sworn watching a GDC interview/developer comment recently that indicated that there wouldn't be an empire lock due to the F2P system making it irrelevant, but I'm damned if I can find it now.
Edit: Never mind, I misread Higby's comment in the Reddit AMA. If he acknowledges that people can create three accounts to have characters on three empires, surely PS1's system would be more beneficial? I think it's more likely that if people could create all 3 empires on one account and then playing a character on one empire locked you out of playing on the other two for an hour or so, you'd have less spying than if it was common practice to make one account per empire. I also think the convenience of having all your characters on one account would cause more people to buy more cash-shop items for their other characters...Plus you don't have the problem of people defecting to another empire for X months and then having forgotten their old account info when they want to return to their old character (that will happen to multiple people, I guarantee it). Last edited by Vancha; 2012-03-25 at 08:48 AM. |
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2012-03-25, 08:41 AM | [Ignore Me] #24 | |||
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Planetside 2 will be tied to Station/Pro7 accounts. Steam will just be a way to access the media in order to play, just like APB. Your steam account will not be tied to it. Steam -> Launchpad -> Game. Also, it wouldn't punish anyone in the slightest. I see it more beneficial with 1 empire per account. |
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2012-03-25, 08:43 AM | [Ignore Me] #25 | |||
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2012-03-25, 08:44 AM | [Ignore Me] #26 | ||
The aim isn't to make it more difficult for a minority of dedicated spies. It's to make it more idfficult for the majority so they can't be bothered becoming spies in the first place. Keep empire hoppers and spies as a minority, rather than them becoming the majority.
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2012-03-25, 08:44 AM | [Ignore Me] #27 | |||
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So anyone who wants to spy will have an extra f2p account. As for empire hopping, someone please explain why thats bad, without using the ultra low population PS1, which also had absolute crap for incentives to stay or discincentives to empire hop, as evidence. There has to be a good reason for wanting to stratify the player base into thirds so people cannot play with their friends. Did it hurt PS1? Of course. Because PS1 handled empire switching absolutely horribly. You don't need a timer. You don't need to lock. No switching to an empire with >36% or whatever. Problem solved. Last edited by CutterJohn; 2012-03-25 at 08:53 AM. |
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2012-03-25, 08:53 AM | [Ignore Me] #28 | |||
you probably are writing from a veteran point of view. you know what empire you will play, and you don´t need to test out the others... but ps2 needs more than the old playerbase, and the noobs will want to check all empires before they choose one for life! and forcing them to create extra accounts with extra email adresses or even extra mac adresses or whatever is just idiotic. as it has been mentioned a lot, this only punishes the normal players and doesn´t affect the problem in any way. in an interview matt said, that once you create a char, it will be locked to faction. that´s ok. he also said, that you could create additional chars to play on other factions. he didn´t say if you have to create a new account to do this. i hope not.
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2012-03-25, 08:53 AM | [Ignore Me] #29 | |||
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That's exactly the point, if i was going to spy, i'd load up a F2P on my 2nd computer and let it sit there, 1 empire per acc won't stop this.
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