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Old 2012-06-01, 05:38 PM   [Ignore Me] #16
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Re: Are we looking the same game? Because what I'm looking at looks amazing.


look at the forums, there are loads of posts that say how great and awesome ps2 and most features are!

it´s just selective perception! we all agree on most great things, so it´s just a praise and that´s it. but on subjects that we don´t like we want to discuss to see if we can get it changed.
sure there is a lot of unnecessary ranting, but a lot of constructive discussion also.

higby and his team would have a hard time improving the game, if we all stop to discuss the things we don´t like.
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Old 2012-06-01, 05:38 PM   [Ignore Me] #17
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Finally. A man that speaks reason. All these grizzled old PS vets need to calm the F down. This game looks amazing.
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Old 2012-06-01, 05:43 PM   [Ignore Me] #18
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Originally Posted by Shogun View Post
look at the forums, there are loads of posts that say how great and awesome ps2 and most features are!

it´s just selective perception! we all agree on most great things, so it´s just a praise and that´s it. but on subjects that we don´t like we want to discuss to see if we can get it changed/Improved of the current design.
sure there is a lot of unnecessary ranting, but a lot of constructive discussion also.

higby and his team would have a hard time improving the game, if we all stop to discuss the things we don´t like.
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Old 2012-06-01, 05:43 PM   [Ignore Me] #19
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Originally Posted by Gandhi View Post
It's because it looks amazing that people are so vocal about minor things. If it looked like crap we'd all have moved on by now.
I just said that in the post right above yours..
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Old 2012-06-01, 05:46 PM   [Ignore Me] #20
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Ahriman Corps were arrogant assholes. Cheaters too.
arrogant assholes, yes.. cheaters? Uh.. not as far as I've seen.

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Finally. A man that speaks reason. All these grizzled old PS vets need to calm the F down. This game looks amazing.
Hey, fuck you. I don't like the fact that a game I've enjoyed for a long time is being butchered to cater to battlefield and CoD assholes.
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Old 2012-06-01, 05:50 PM   [Ignore Me] #21
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Originally Posted by p0intman View Post
Hey, fuck you. I don't like the fact that a game I've enjoyed for a long time is being butchered to cater to battlefield and CoD assholes.
Butchered? Hardly. Planetside, as great as it was, had flaws beyond just the netcode. And it's a myth that the game is being catered to any one group.
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Old 2012-06-01, 05:55 PM   [Ignore Me] #22
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Agree
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Old 2012-06-01, 06:00 PM   [Ignore Me] #23
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Originally Posted by Raymac View Post
Butchered? Hardly. Planetside, as great as it was, had flaws beyond just the netcode. And it's a myth that the game is being catered to any one group.
Agree. Planetside is my Favorite game I've ever played with nothing even having a close second. I played over a period of 8 years and saw every different iteration of the game.

Basically I'm about as grizzled of an old Vet as you could find but I LOVE what they are doing with this game as a whole. There are as many vets that love this new game as hate it so chill lol.
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Old 2012-06-01, 06:10 PM   [Ignore Me] #24
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Re: Are we looking the same game? Because what I'm looking at looks amazing.


I'm pretty sure most people are happy with how the game is coming along (me included). Its just that the only real reason to post is if you have a complaint about something. No one posts just to say, "GJ. Keep doing what you're already doing."
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Old 2012-06-01, 06:11 PM   [Ignore Me] #25
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Originally Posted by p0intman View Post
Hey, fuck you. I don't like the fact that a game I've enjoyed for a long time is being butchered to cater to battlefield and CoD assholes.
LOL, this +100000
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Old 2012-06-01, 06:13 PM   [Ignore Me] #26
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Originally Posted by Kurtz View Post
They're taking the things that didn't work, weren't marketable, we're redundant or obsolete and making them better.
Complete opinion.


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Aircraft and flight physics
Who is complaining about this? My only dislike on the subject is forced cockpits, cause I like to see what I'm doing. I mainly used my plane in PS1 for fast transport, and will probably do the same in PS2. So, it was never a big enough issue for me to care to post about. As for the actual flight physics, I've seen no complaints.


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TTK
I'm used to kill streaks in BF/COD because you CAN kill more than 2 players at a time. In Planetside, I would often put a lot of time and effort into ONE kill and just before I got the kill, someone would steal (chizow) the kill. Going up against 3 Rexos was an impossible task. There was no way, no matter how good you were that you were going to get those three kills unless maybe you caught them coming up the tower stairs and you plasma spammed them and used HA to finish them off.

While I am admittedly a bit concerned that the TTK is a bit too fast in PS2 I am looking forward to being able to lay down the same ownage in PS2 that I am able to do in the more modern shooters like BF and COD.

I wont have to overclock my FSB (speed hacking) or camp the spawn tubes (Godjoey) to actually have a chance to be somewhere on the leaderboards.
So you only like the change because you were bad at PS1? I was all for slightly faster TTKs, but they seem a little too fast atm.


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Flight Ceiling
...OMG really. You're complaining about the newly increased +600m flight ceiling? I think it is amazing. From what I saw in TBs video with higby you could probably safely fly above even the most annoying VS max AA without warning.
I haven't looked back at that thread in a while, but the OP (and most the people that were complaining about it) seemed ok with it once it was explained to them that it was in fact higher than PS1's. They just want to avoid places like Searhus's center were the land was higher than the ceiling.


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Boundries.
While I admit that it was nice to plot a course to the objective out in the ocean to avoid enemy AA and useless engagements otw to the objective, I don't see a real loss in not having useless ocean to travel over. See the increased flight ceiling above.
I think its more that they were so far inland and gave a pretty big annoying warning. There is a big border of land around the edges of the cont that are not contained in a hex that they can make the boundaries a little more lenient. They don't have to extend well out over the ocean like they did in PS1, but a little more room would be good.


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Sanctuary VS footholds
At first this set me back too, I liked rallying at sanctuary to bring in the large invasion, but when you think about how this caused network logistic problems you can easily see why it was removed.

In the old PS if you got kicked off a continent, your next spawn could only be at an AMS you were bound to or Sanctuary. So while you were regrouping at sanctuary the continent was getting pop locked. You and your buddies were stuck in the warpgate trying to get back in. With the new PS, you can never be denied the continent you want to fight on.
If you took to long regrouping and got locked out of the next cont that was your fault. There was still 9 other conts you and your buddies could goto. Also back at PS launch there was 3-4 conts being fought over at a time, so there was plenty of other targets to choose from. The bigger problem here is only 3 conts.

Once you get pushed back to your foothold now, if the other 2 are pop locked (very likely at prime time) then your stuck trying to fight out of your WG, and probably getting camped.


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Concept Art vs. Model

really? next.
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Inventory
Really? you want to run around with your inventory open and swap out that 2nd decimator when your first one ran out of shells it was disposable and your inventory didn't see it as ammo. All while a max is chasing you around the generator. I'll pass.
They could have fixed that this time. If you used the third shot in a Deci and have another in your backpack, it automatically equips it. I will miss the free form "make your own class" inventories from PS1.


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Third person
Corner camping? No thanks.
I'm pretty sure everyone is happy this is gone. I was one of the biggest tower whores in PS1, and even idc that its gone. The only complaint most have is with ground vehicles. In the vid clips they have used some 3rd person while driving, but they have stated 3rd person will only be available to aircraft.


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Prone
I can see an argument for this, especially since it is more necessary in a modernized FPS with grenade launchers and snipers. Prone isn't for camping its for ducking spam and headshots.
I never read any of the prone threads because idc if it is in or out. So, can't really comment on this one.


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Basically the only way we're going to see how all this plays out is to play the game in Beta. Then can make your case.
We need to be vocal now, so the devs start looking into these things from our perspective before beta. The more they are aware of something that is causing concern now, the more likely they are to seriously look at changing it come beta.


Originally Posted by Kurtz View Post
So far, when I look at the gameplay footage I am floored. My jaw is on the floor. Personally I can't wait.
We have yet to see a battle. GDC we got to see Higby rocket spam a Mag, have a small 5 on 5 skirmish, and thats about it. Yes the new engine and conts looks pretty, but I can't wait to see an actual battle. That is the only gameplay footage that matters.


Different people like different things. No matter how well the game is done, it will never please everyone, and people will ALWAYS complain. So... stop complaining about complaining?
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Old 2012-06-01, 06:13 PM   [Ignore Me] #27
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Originally Posted by DjEclipse View Post
Tbh many of these grizzled old PS1 vets are going to get owned in PS2. For them it is going to be like going from horse and buggy to a Ferrari. They won't keep up.
It's very naive of you children to think that Planetside is the only FPS we've ever played. Topping the scoreboard on a BF3 match is an easy feat for most of us. Especially for me if you give me a L85A2 or a jet... kiss your ass goodbye
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Old 2012-06-01, 06:14 PM   [Ignore Me] #28
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Originally Posted by DjEclipse View Post
Tbh many of these grizzled old PS1 vets are going to get owned in PS2. For them it is going to be like going from horse and buggy to a Ferrari. They won't keep up.
Lol, okay... a lot of the old PS1 vets from the dinosaur age do play other fps games. Its not gonna be a problem. If anything it's going to be a rude awakening for a lot of you younger/newer players to PS.
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Old 2012-06-01, 06:15 PM   [Ignore Me] #29
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Originally Posted by DjEclipse View Post
Tbh many of these grizzled old PS1 vets are going to get owned in PS2. For them it is going to be like going from horse and buggy to a Ferrari. They won't keep up.
Seeing as PS1 was an MMOFPS I think you'd be hard pressed to find a PS1 vet that hasn't played many other shooters. This is a ridiculous statement.
If you never played a game where you can pull as many vehicles and aircraft as you want at the same time your in for a shock and are at a disadvantage. Faster TTK and ADS are small changes to adjust to compared to playing a confined 64 player round shooter and a full on open world shooter with unlimited possibilities.
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Old 2012-06-01, 06:22 PM   [Ignore Me] #30
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Originally Posted by Envenom View Post
All these grizzled old PS vets need to calm the F down.
I need help guys.

What is the word to describe a new guy who just arrives in town and start bossing people around/singling them out/acting superior/etc... ?

It just doesn't feel as good replying with an inaccurate word.
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