SoE should invite hackers to break the game

[Fanglord]

Originally Posted by Vetto

Ya that large attack on Sony that shut down servers never happened. Also white hat =network dev== hacker

Im by no far programmer savvy, but as far as I am aware white hat is a term to describe a hacker that hacks for the enjoyment and to direct company's to flaws in their own code/systems. Also from what i've read alot of these people get hired as QA and security.

[indirect]

Originally Posted by Vetto

One should not ever Encourage hackers, but deal with them when found. Hackers are not in it to help a company, there in it for the Lulz, or to ruin a game.

You have no idea what you're talking about. Hackers are hired by multi BILLION dollar companies to crack their software. See; Microsoft, Apple, Mozilla, etc.

Please don't pretend to know what you're talking about.

[Blackwolf]

Originally Posted by Vetto

One should not ever Encourage hackers, but deal with them when found. Hackers are not in it to help a company, there in it for the Lulz, or to ruin a game.

Don't confuse punks with programs with hackers. True hackers can actually help a buiseness by, as the OP suggested, getting into the system, finding backdoors, and closing them.

In fact calling them hackers is wrong, even the ones creating the programs. They are programmers, like DEVs, who understand the language well enough to create programs that exploit aspects of it. They don't infiltrate the system at all. A hacker is someone who actually gets into a system they don't belong in, whether physically or through the net.

I actually think people give "hackers" hard ons just by calling them hackers. A bit of prestige involved and all that.

[LightningDriver]

There will be enough people who will try anyways without needing an invitation. The whole point of hacking is to catch people off-guard, inviting them in sort of defeats the purpose.

Hopefully, every hacker that comes in will make security stronger, and in a year, the game will be (mostly) hack free.

[Vash02]

Hire hackers, never invite them.

[Papscal]

I am sure beta will have many hacking attempts.

[Nasher]

This is something games devs seem to skip on. Your supposed to test software in this way :/

[Luieburger]

Chances are they already have a group of these folks working for SOE.

They'd be stupid not to, especially with a game like this. Rest assured, SOE has most likely hired a crack team of security folks.

[The Degenatron]

You don't have to invite them, they'll come all by themselves.

The question is: Will the mods swing a Ten-Ton Ban Hammer fast and often enough to put a dent in their numbers.

What I wish for is a suit of ban options to be leveled on cheaters all at once:
Account Ban
IP Ban
MAC Ban
OS S/N Ban
Video S/N Ban
CPU S/N Ban
ISP Router Ban (when applicable)

By locking out multiple identifiers at once - the mods have a better chance at frustrating hackers and forcing them to jump though many hoops if they want to attack our game again.

I hope the Mods have the courage to ruthlessly ban on sight, without warning, and without appeal and lose what SOE will (mistakenly) consider a revenue source.

[Pella]

To be honest people that tend to hack wont pay for anything. Thats was even stated in APB quote in this thread someplace.

So banning will come thick and fast im sure. As there not loosing money.

[GuyShep]

Originally Posted by Pella

To be honest people that tend to hack wont pay for anything. Thats was even stated in APB quote in this thread someplace.

So banning will come thick and fast im sure. As there not loosing money.

Actually, it was the exact opposite that was said. G1 and the APB devs were a bit dumbstruck that a good number of hackers spent money on the cash shop, since hackers get banned in waves instead of the moment they get detected, and there's some considerable amount of time between waves.

[RadarX]

I'm fairly certain we aren't going to invite hackers but I've never been involved in a Beta where folks didn't report memory modification, blotting, speedhacks, etc... We will be watching and listening.

[maddoggg]

I actually like the idea of SOE hiring a hacker or two to find and fix their weak spots.

[Trafalgar]

If not, some of the beta-testers will poke the beta with pointy sticks and see what comes loose (but it (finding potential security flaws and exploits, testing for whether they're really exploitable, and reporting them) is obviously far more efficient and effective with source code, which is why SoE would likely want a team working for them).

[Shigins]

Ok as a person with a degree in the subject im going to stop all this bitching...

a Hacker = someone who likes to play with code and find vulenarbilities

a Cracker = a Malicious person who attempts to cause damage by performing hacking techniques

THERE A DIFFERENCE!!!!

Please dont post on the subject if you dont know what it means