A weak point

[waldizzo]

The logos were carried over from the original game. They're basic but instantly identifiable, just like a lot of popular logos in use today.

[Synapse]

He is of course right, the logos are pretty bad.

And everyone else is right that they won't change due to tradition.

[Hmr85]

Is the op being serious?? I think the logos look great.

On a separate note, what the hell is happening to these forums you newer guys keep trying to pick away at my beloved PS.

[waldizzo]

Originally Posted by Synapse

He is of course right, the logos are pretty bad.

And everyone else is right that they won't change due to tradition.

Victory is our tradition.

[Arovien]

I would say the NC emblem has more going on. Personally my fav is the TR one, obviously , yet none is lacking over the others.

[lolroflroflcake]

Originally Posted by AThreatToYou

let's be honest here

the TR emblem is simple, professional and badass

the VS emblem is cool too, if your VS, otherwise it's a turd

but the NC emblem being "good"? Are you kidding me? That thing is an atrocious insult to art. It looks like a goddam coin not something you'd put on a flag/wall/armor.

Its symbolism, the NC are all slaves to corporate greed.

[Graywolves]

Originally Posted by waldizzo

Victory is our tradition.

Loyalty until Death!

[AThreatToYou]

Originally Posted by lolroflroflcake

Its symbolism, the NC are all slaves to corporate greed.

i just got owned

[windlord]

How would I fix them? Fair question.

Now I've been very gentle in my subjective educated opinion as I realise that everyone is an art director.

Ok firstly if you look at the NC logo you'll see the application of tone on the eagle device. Secondly you'll notice that the NC has two primary colours.

Obviously the composition of the main elements of the other two factions logos needs to be retained. However the basic stucture of the logos can be layered whereby an amount of detail can be added in, augmenting the detail to match that of the NC.

Then secondary and tertiary image enhancements could be added such as tone and texture. This would also allow secondary colours to be added to the logos.

I would offer to do it but it is the head designer/Art directors call. I know what it's like to be in a busy studio and to hear an opinion at the end of a project. Irritating at best I know, exasperating at the least.

So I can deal with it as is. however it's certainly something worthy of consideration.

[Zulthus]

Originally Posted by windlord

How would I fix them? Fair question.

Now I've been very gentle in my subjective educated opinion as I realise that everyone is an art director.

Ok firstly if you look at the NC logo you'll see the application of tone on the eagle device. Secondly you'll notice that the NC has two primary colours.

Obviously the composition of the main elements of the other two factions logos needs to be retained. However the basic stucture of the logos can be layered whereby an amount of detail can be added in, augmenting the detail to match that of the NC.

Then secondary and tertiary image enhancements could be added such as tone and texture. This would also allow secondary colours to be added to the logos.

I would offer to do it but it is the head designer/Art directors call. I know what it's like to be in a busy studio and to hear an opinion at the end of a project. Irritating at best I know, exasperating at the least.

So I can deal with it as is. however it's certainly something worthy of consideration.

You should post some examples of what you'd like to see improved in the logos.

[zomg]

I for one think it would be fun to see what kind of logos you could come up with yourself. Do it, just for fun

Personally I sort of see what this guy is talking about. Considering the NC logo is the most "designed" - it's the most complex - so obviously it would be the most pleasing to someone who looks for that sort of thing. On the other hand, the other logos have quite clear iconography in my opinion, so I would not go as far as call them poor or anything.

[Mr DeCastellac]

Originally Posted by Zulthus

Really? Seriously? For real? Honestly?



That's like saying the U.S Flag is really boring and unimaginative, and that it doesn't reflect how great we are. After all, I could make it in 1 minute on Paint.

I hate to be disrespectful to the OP, since he was very nice about it being just his opinion and all... but I think this metaphor is accurate.

The empire logos have been around more than 9 years and have been prominently featured in Planetside 2 (obviously, since they're the empire logos ). Even if it was feasible to redesign them and replace them, including putting something in the lore about "A graphic designer of 20 years conducted a meeting between the TR and VS, wherein their signature logos were changed", the Planetside veterans including myself would be outraged.

Just look at this forum. Anything that was broken in the first game, we want fixed in the second. Anything that was fine in the first, we don't want changed. Primarily, due to tradition.

There was a large complaint thread about how they changed the voice chat button from V to B. How do you think people will react when the empire they're loyal to changes the logo they've come to know and love?

[WNxThentar]

Originally Posted by windlord

I'm a graphic designer/Artist of 20 years.

Now I know that this is a subjective call. Furthermore I realise that for this next phase of Planetside this isn't going to change. Mostly due to the logistics.

However an opinion is just that.

I think that the guys really should have looked at the faction logos. I think the NC one is Ok however the other two really are poor. I would expect something like that from a first year arts student.

Considering just how pivotal these designs are to the rest of the game I would've thought that these designs really could have been reworked and improved to reflect the awesome qualities that the rest of the game exhibits.

Just my 2 cents.

Yup and in Australia 2 cents is worth nothing. The logos are from the first game and I personally have no problem with any of them but if you want to stick your nose up at them then by all means join NC because you feel that way.

[windlord]

Lol if I were a single man I'd offer to rework it.

Besides I don't really do graphics for free.

And furthermore any moderately experienced designer should know what to do.

It's a relatively simple brief and execution, which is why I'm surprised it wasn't really done.

Lastly I understand everyones position and I respect that. I'm just offering my opinion. Cheers.

[Blackwolf]

Originally Posted by windlord

I'm a graphic designer/Artist of 20 years.

Now I know that this is a subjective call. Furthermore I realise that for this next phase of Planetside this isn't going to change. Mostly due to the logistics.

However an opinion is just that.

I think that the guys really should have looked at the faction logos. I think the NC one is Ok however the other two really are poor. I would expect something like that from a first year arts student.

Considering just how pivotal these designs are to the rest of the game I would've thought that these designs really could have been reworked and improved to reflect the awesome qualities that the rest of the game exhibits.

Just my 2 cents.

I suppose I see what you mean. TR and VS logos are pretty much opposites of each other while the NC logo is the unique one among them. Psychologically speaking this could be why the NC are the most hated faction ever.

Seriously, put 3 people in a room and 2 will gang up on the third for whatever similarities or differences present. Even two people who disagree with each other will gang up on a 3rd if they find some common ground on which to stand, and the similarities between logos is common enough.

Or it could be that this is a game and we're giving this way to much thought. What do you think?

Originally Posted by windlord

How would I fix them? Fair question.

Now I've been very gentle in my subjective educated opinion as I realise that everyone is an art director.

Ok firstly if you look at the NC logo you'll see the application of tone on the eagle device. Secondly you'll notice that the NC has two primary colours.

Obviously the composition of the main elements of the other two factions logos needs to be retained. However the basic stucture of the logos can be layered whereby an amount of detail can be added in, augmenting the detail to match that of the NC.

Then secondary and tertiary image enhancements could be added such as tone and texture. This would also allow secondary colours to be added to the logos.

I would offer to do it but it is the head designer/Art directors call. I know what it's like to be in a busy studio and to hear an opinion at the end of a project. Irritating at best I know, exasperating at the least.

So I can deal with it as is. however it's certainly something worthy of consideration.

You've got good points. Despite my little jest I did get what you were driving at. This explanation cleared it up better though

Lemme take a whack at it...