The virtue of PATIENCE

[Astrok]

Originally Posted by Cuross

lolwuh? erm, huh? So far as I can gather, you're saying that Beta finishes the game. Well, I'm not opposed to that at all, either! Six more months of me playing Beta is still me fully supporting my position of waiting six months for a great game on release!

Though, I did see someone say it's better to have the game released on time, which yeah, a game released on time is a good game, but I want it to be spectacular to begin with and not still have that feeling of "Oh, it'll get better with updates". I understand where you're coming from, though.

Well i dont think they have to work on this game for another 6 months.thats nonesense,

Even now (E3 Footage) looks better then any game that comes out on the market right now.

[Cuross]

Originally Posted by Astrok

Well i dont think they have to work on this game for another 6 months.thats nonesense,

Even now (E3 Footage) looks better then any game that comes out on the market right now.

lol of course I don't think they need to, I was just saying that I would rather they did that instead of trying to rush the game out (unfinished mind you) to meet deadlines. I can't say how many games have disappointed me because of the itchy feeling that they just pushed it out the doors. Not saying that PS2 will be that way or that the Devs and Beta aren't/won't be able to finish the job, but I'd rather wait for anything other than the best.

[Greeniegriz]

Well said OP.

Cheers,

GG

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[wraithverge]

I just resubbed to ps1 and I'm good to wait now.

[Striker KOJ]

Originally Posted by PeteHMB

The devs have stated they don't want to rush the game and would like to let everyone into beta as much or more so as everyone wants to get into beta. I, for one, am glad they've expressed an interest and concern over taking the time to get things right instead of rushing it to appease the fans. There's no competition pushing them to release first. There's no new console coming out they need to coincide the release date with. Nobody except those who have signed an NDA or are actively working on the game knows quite how things are going to work or play out once everyone starts playing the game. So please...HAVE PATIENCE. I find myself coming on these forums less and less because every day it's entire new pages of armchair quarterbacks griping about the game, calling out perceived flaws, and generally being loud and uninformed. I'm as eager as any to get into beta, and just built myself a new PC specifically for it (after not having touched a PC in over 5 years). But I would rather the devs take another 6 months to even begin beta than rush it and deliver a product they're less than comfortable with just to try and make the holiday rush.

So here's to the devs...cheers, thanks for all you've done so far, thanks for all you continue to do, and keep up the good work. I look forward to beta.

I agree, and I just want to say that, thanks to your avatar, this message sound even more effective in the voice of George Carlin.

[Astrok]

Originally Posted by wraithverge

I just resubbed to ps1 and I'm good to wait now.

not subbing back to ps1 lol.
its a great game and i still have the disc here with expansions but subbing for a game that gets away in a few months aint my thing .

[PeteHMB]

I think this needs a big fat BUMP...9/10 of the first page is covered in "I think this is a bad idea" crap.

I fully understand everyone's itching for Beta. But I have NEVER seen anticipation take such a negative/"I know better" form. Perhaps shift discussion to new tactics, strategies, gameplay styles, etc instead of "this is a stupid idea". ADAPT and OVERCOME! I feel the need to reiterate here - let's wait and see if removing AMSs was really the right thing to do or not. Let's wait and see how bad other people's customizations are, and how much it REALLY affects your gameplay, before attempting to get SOE to change their business plan or gameplay options around it. Come on people...we're smarter and better than this. Let's stop worrying so much about the petty things that may or may not affect gameplay until we can actually verify for ourselves how well it works.

Originally Posted by Striker KOJ

I agree, and I just want to say that, thanks to your avatar, this message sound even more effective in the voice of George Carlin.

I truly miss that man. No other comics have quite been able to fill that cantankerous void.

[lMABl]

Completely agree. Beta will come when it comes, no need to rush.

[Arcticus]

Beleive it or not, I actually think this forum has had a pretty good signal-to-noise ratio. The game has been in alpha and is now in beta. We are all aware that our statements are based on presupposition and interpreting what comes out of the devs and conferences. But that's what comments are going to be at this stage in this forum.

So many other games, at this stage, have had their forums filled with real negative comments with all the "proof" of how the game was going to fail.

I'm still shocked at the interaction between the devs and this community. It's probably because I've been away from the MMO scene for a while. It's a totally different beast than dev/player relations some years back.

Even those posts with which I disagree have their arguments laid out fairly logically (though I might disagree with their premises).

If this game succeeds, it's not only the financing model that changes, but their development model.

I wouldn't worry about whining or disagreements with expected game mechanics; these commenters actually care for the game. Look at how few "this game will suck" trolls are found here. Where are the "I'm not going to waste my time with this game when I can be playing game xyz" posts?

Maybe it's partly because F2P has a bit of immunity because no money is required up front.

Maybe no other game is YET seen as competing with PS2.

Maybe it's the inclusion of a dedicated player base from the onset of development.

Whatever it is, this game is different.

[Kran De Loy]

Maybe it's a fansite run by a Terran Republic Officer. That's a possibility, too.

[Rago]

Originally Posted by Kran De Loy

Maybe it's a fansite run by a Terran Republic Officer. That's a possibility, too.

Hahaha this Topic makes me often Laugh

Another Post that was funny was something like I strap you in the Front of my Vanguard ^^

[Nemises]

yes, happy to wait if it improves the product...sometimes speculating about it is more fun than actually playing anyway....it can be an impossible task for a game to meet up with our imaginations!

[Rivenshield]

Fuck patience. I want to kill something NOW.

/remembers he has most of a free month of PS left
/grins evilly

[PeteHMB]

Originally Posted by Arcticus

Beleive it or not, I actually think this forum has had a pretty good signal-to-noise ratio. The game has been in alpha and is now in beta. We are all aware that our statements are based on presupposition and interpreting what comes out of the devs and conferences. But that's what comments are going to be at this stage in this forum.

So many other games, at this stage, have had their forums filled with real negative comments with all the "proof" of how the game was going to fail.

I'm still shocked at the interaction between the devs and this community. It's probably because I've been away from the MMO scene for a while. It's a totally different beast than dev/player relations some years back.

Even those posts with which I disagree have their arguments laid out fairly logically (though I might disagree with their premises).

If this game succeeds, it's not only the financing model that changes, but their development model.

I wouldn't worry about whining or disagreements with expected game mechanics; these commenters actually care for the game. Look at how few "this game will suck" trolls are found here. Where are the "I'm not going to waste my time with this game when I can be playing game xyz" posts?

Points granted. It IS a far better ratio than most gaming forums, it just seems to me that every time I log on the first few pages are filled with criticisms. I check these forums once a day purely for news announcements. If I don't see any new media posts or news announcements, I go back to playing a game. I trust in the devs and would rather wait and see what they've done to voice any concerns than blindly speculate from a mere glimpse (if that) of a gameplay item.

[Kran De Loy]

Yeah I check the PSU forum maybe 4-8 times a day and the reddit probably once every couple days. (because I'm an addict).

Honestly tho a lot of those topics give people better ways to think about whatever issue is up to discussion if nothing else. Like the Spotting thread for example. Even if it did nothing else it created lots of people that would probably never have thought about the subject that are now better capable of identifying how spotting mechanics work in PS2 thus as a consequence those people are better able to define problems with the system.

But yeah I agree that threads like that are still the exception rather then the rule. Even here. :/