VS underpowered when it comes to infantry?

[Landtank]

VS are the worst empire, so it makes sense for them to be underpowered.

[Rbstr]

"NC underpowered when it comes to infantry"
Low ROF and high recoil will lead to being ineffective at short ranges.
"TR underpowered when it comes to infantry"
High rof but low damage will lead to being ineffective at long ranges

I fail to see how any of this is worth commenting on at this point. You haven't played the game at all. How do you know how the balance stacks up?

[Flaropri]

VS Snipers might to less damage against other Snipers... but they'll be more accurate. I don't see the problem.

[Cutter]

Does it really matter in the end? I mean let's face it...the VS are DOOMED no matter what.

[GarryPotter]

Originally Posted by Flaropri

VS Snipers might to less damage against other Snipers... but they'll be more accurate. I don't see the problem.

The problem is that one can be lessened by skill, the other can not. You can be good at gauging distance and bullet drop, thus negating the accuracy issue somewhat via skill. You cannot use skill to negate damage drop over distance, unless you consider moving closer to the target to be "skill"

[Otleaz]

Snipers aren't a game changer at all. You pretty much just ignore them in ANY other shooter.

The only game I can think of where snipers are actually part of the fight and not some ignorable environmental hazard is Arma 2.

[Tatwi]

We're overpowered in all circumstances from our excess of style. I'm not concerned.

[SixShooter]

Funny, I don't feel underpowered......

[Baneblade]

Accuracy trumps all in sniping. But, I wouldn't try to snipe with a laser pointer either.

[willaguy]

Originally Posted by Zalmoxis

I have thought about it, and I am starting to believe that the VS might be quite underpowered in terms of infantry combat. Why?

Well, in my opinion snipers play a very important role in infantry combat and base defense against infantry ( hate them or love them, you can't deny their battle effectiveness). And since the VS have the "bullets lose damage over time" perk, I think that the VS snipers might get raped by the enemy snipers. And same thing goes for the rest of the infantry, since the VS would lose in medium to long range battles because of their perk, they would have to get in CQ where they have no advantage over the other factions.

But hey, these are just my thoughts on the matter, and since I haven't played PS1 I don't know what to think.

So, what is your opinion on this matter?

I'm pretty sure that bullet-damage-drop for VS is only going to come in to play when you get to 200 yard ranges or more. The VS also have a slight AoE radius for their plasma based weapons.

[Flaropri]

Originally Posted by GarryPotter

The problem is that one can be lessened by skill, the other can not. You can be good at gauging distance and bullet drop, thus negating the accuracy issue somewhat via skill. You cannot use skill to negate damage drop over distance, unless you consider moving closer to the target to be "skill"

Lessened but not removed. You can get (via experience) a better sense of where bullet drop will go but it's still not going to have the accuracy that VS has.

[Forsaken One]

Originally Posted by GarryPotter

The problem is that one can be lessened by skill, the other can not. You can be good at gauging distance and bullet drop, thus negating the accuracy issue somewhat via skill. You cannot use skill to negate damage drop over distance, unless you consider moving closer to the target to be "skill"

This is one of the bullshit things of so called high risk high reward. The skill something takes should never, ever be a part of what makes it balanced. It should be balanced for anyone to use THEN those with the best skill can make the most use out of it.

I laugh when people one shot people with a sniper and think they have skill, its the overpowered stats and ability of the gun, they just derp around till they can use it right.

Originally Posted by Otleaz

Snipers aren't a game changer at all. You pretty much just ignore them in ANY other shooter.

The only game I can think of where snipers are actually part of the fight and not some ignorable environmental hazard is Arma 2.

You haven't played many games with snipers in them have you? Snipers tend to be one of the most hated guns in fps games because its whole thing of high risk high reward just makes it one of the most bullshit guns of any game.

Hell even CS:S has the awp, combat arms snipers everywhere, in fact a lot of arena f2p fps games like combat arms which have small maps still see maybe 50%+ snipers on each team because of the bullshitness of the gun.

[SgtExo]

Originally Posted by Forsaken One

This is one of the bullshit things of so called high risk high reward. The skill something takes should never, ever be a part of what makes it balanced. It should be balanced for anyone to use THEN those with the best skill can make the most use out of it.

I laugh when people one shot people with a sniper and think they have skill, its the overpowered stats and ability of the gun, they just derp around till they can use it right.



You haven't played many games with snipers in them have you? Snipers tend to be one of the most hated guns in fps games because its whole thing of high risk high reward just makes it one of the most bullshit guns of any game.

Hell even CS:S has the awp, combat arms snipers everywhere, in fact a lot of arena f2p fps games like combat arms which have small maps still see maybe 50%+ snipers on each team because of the bullshitness of the gun.

Thats why snipers should be almost impossible to use in close range, snipers should just be viable at medium to long range.

[bbihah]

Originally Posted by Top Sgt

i don't think snipers will have anything to do with it.

VS seem to overuse Max units from PS1

and now the mag tank and scythe flghter there is why your infantry is low

AT Zerg 100 people 95 of them max's. no one left to actually cap the point.

Well simple answers to that. Did VS have any lock on/indirect AA except max?

How about AV?

Had far better chance doing good damage against ground vehicles( and not getting raped) if you had lock on/indirect(phoenix) weapons from afar than using the lancer.
better to use AV max to increase your survivability for that by being in a max suit.

[rTekku]

Originally Posted by Otleaz

Snipers aren't a game changer at all. You pretty much just ignore them in ANY other shooter.

The only game I can think of where snipers are actually part of the fight and not some ignorable environmental hazard is Arma 2.

You must be new to FPS games.

"Quick scoping" is a term used for aggressive play with a Sniper Rifle in close quarters. This play style is extremely popular due to it being a potential one shot, one kill at close range.