[Video] The Lancer doesn't suck, even when using it solo.

[Dragonskin]

I've seen some lancers for the first time this weekend. It's rare... way more Phoenix and Striker users for sure. I was behind an ally tank column around the Stronghold and there were some VS at the top of the hill with about 7-10 lancers. Those cyan streaks all over the night sky... looked cool and the tank column melted. Almost as fast as when DVS has their Phoenix squads going.

I still like my Striker a lot, but tempted to get the Lancer for my VS to play around with. The Striker just takes a long time to lock.. really hard to lock flashes and impossible to hit wraith flashes. I've also noticed a considerable number of tanks using IR smoke... which is refreshing as much as it is annoying to go up against... would love to be able to dumbfire the Striker and it appears that more and more ESF pilots have learned the weakness of the lock-ons... many don't even need flares now. Sad times.. rare to get a ESF kill. Liberators are fair game though haha.

[KaskaMatej]

Originally Posted by Mordelicius

The Vanu as so used to OP stuff.

Originally Posted by Mordelicius

Infinite range + near instantaneous hit is not what I'd call weak.

Max range is 700 metres, max speed (level 3 charge is 800 m/s) which is neither infinite range nor near instantaneous hit. It takes almost a second to hit at max range and a moving vehicle will easily dodge it. There is also a long lasting laser tracer that pinpoints your position.

Originally Posted by Mordelicius

All one needs is charge and point and it will hit

All one needs with Striker is to aim at a vehicle for few seconds and shoot a salvo.

All one needs with Phoenix is to hide behind a rock and shoot his guided rocket to the target.

Lancer bad at close range because if you want to do same damage as default launcher you need to stand there for 3 seconds charging your laser. It also does piss poor damage to infantry even at max charge (a total of 750 damage max, around 500 at max range).

Oh, yea, good luck hitting your target which can't even be seen due to 1x zoom.

[Assist]

Originally Posted by Mordelicius

The Vanu as so used to OP stuff.

Infinite range + near instantaneous hit is not what I'd call weak. We're already calling it OP when Higby previewed it. It's just that the build that he was using was different from the one released. Now, that's fixed as well, right?

All one needs is charge and point and it will hit

Only thing funny is how ignorant you are.

[Dragonskin]

Originally Posted by KaskaMatej

Max range is 700 metres, max speed (level 3 charge is 800 m/s) which is neither infinite range nor near instantaneous hit. It takes almost a second to hit at max range and a moving vehicle will easily dodge it. There is also a long lasting laser tracer that pinpoints your position.



All one needs with Striker is to aim at a vehicle for few seconds and shoot a salvo.

All one needs with Phoenix is to hide behind a rock and shoot his guided rocket to the target.

Lancer bad at close range because if you want to do same damage as default launcher you need to stand there for 3 seconds charging your laser. It also does piss poor damage to infantry even at max charge (a total of 750 damage max, around 500 at max range).

Oh, yea, good luck hitting your target which can't even be seen due to 1x zoom.

Try to get a lock-on at close range with a Striker haha. More often than not the target will find you before your lock completes and if they are super close (10m) or less... you can't even lock-on it seems. If you think the Lancer is bad at close range that is just hilarious. Phoenix is better than the Lancer at close range, but just slightly.

[Lucecarentes]

Originally Posted by Mordelicius

The Vanu as so used to OP stuff.

Infinite range + near instantaneous hit is not what I'd call weak. We're already calling it OP when Higby previewed it. It's just that the build that he was using was different from the one released. Now, that's fixed as well, right?

All one needs is charge and point and it will hit

As usual trolls everywhere with false facts, i wish i played PS1, veterans keep saying how nice that community was.
PS2's community is full of tards and this is why SOE should never listen to the community, they keep giving false feedback since idiotic players like you only care about making their own empire power powerfull and not making the game balanced for everyone.

SOE needs a large testing team to balance the game, if the community QQ's about a weapon the testing team would get a mission to test the specific weapon for a week, after a week of testing they'll decided if the QQuing is true or if the community is just acting up like litle sissys girls.

[Haro]

Honestly, don't buy into the whole PS1 had a better community thing. There are assholes in this game, there were assholes in the original.

As for the lancer, I think it looks pretty good. ESRLs aren't supposed to be upgrades, they're supposed to be sidegrades compared to the default rocket launchers, and are more situational, and therefore need to be used very differently. As far as I can tell, the current ESRLs all fit this bill at least decently (the striker toes the line here, crosses it as far as the annihilator is concerned) but I think we saw a video that demonstrates the weapons strengths and a good play style for employing them. Honestly, while I don't have much experience with the lasher myself (yet) the only change I think this thing could use is an upgradable scope with a bit more zoom.

[Qwan]

Originally Posted by Lucecarentes

As usual trolls everywhere with false facts, i wish i played PS1, veterans keep saying how nice that community was.
PS2's community is full of tards and this is why SOE should never listen to the community.

You have to remember what the PS2 community is made up of, alot of BF3 gamers and COD, I call them console kids. See PS1 was a subscription game, so there were mostly adults in it, who were alot mature and had credit cards and jobs. Now PS2 is free to play, and alot of kids download and play. They find the forums and whine about everything, like the game play, mechanics of the game, and pretty much anything that pissed them off, because there not used to the large battles, so that night when they were getting powned by some VS or TR or NC, they rage quit log on to the forums and cry of about what ever weapon was used to piss them off.

[Dragonskin]

Originally Posted by Qwan

You have to remember what the PS2 community is made up of, alot of BF3 gamers and COD, I call them console kids. See PS1 was a subscription game, so there were mostly adults in it, who were alot mature and had credit cards and jobs. Now PS2 is free to play, and alot of kids download and play. They find the forums and whine about everything, like the game play, mechanics of the game, and pretty much anything that pissed them off, because there not used to the large battles, so that night when they were getting powned by some VS or TR or NC, they rage quit log on to the forums and cry of about what ever weapon was used to piss them off.

This is like saying there are no asshats in WoW because it is subscription based. There weren't as many asshats in PS1 because the game wasn't popular. I am sure there were still quiet a few of them around. Whining and moaning has been around the internet forums since WoW/Everquest 2... hell there were tons of whining of Final Fantasy 11 forums and that was a PvE game. Those are all subscription games by the way.

[Haro]

Originally Posted by Qwan

You have to remember what the PS2 community is made up of, alot of BF3 gamers and COD, I call them console kids. See PS1 was a subscription game, so there were mostly adults in it, who were alot mature and had credit cards and jobs. Now PS2 is free to play, and alot of kids download and play. They find the forums and whine about everything, like the game play, mechanics of the game, and pretty much anything that pissed them off, because there not used to the large battles, so that night when they were getting powned by some VS or TR or NC, they rage quit log on to the forums and cry of about what ever weapon was used to piss them off.

Bullshit. Please, unless you have some magical census that tells you the past history of everyone here, including me, PLEASE stop making these ridiculous assumptions.

Many people dont put the time and effort into making good posts about balance or other gameplay issues. This is not a result of what games they play or how they play them, that's just how they approach discussion in an open, anonymous community. I've seen people do analysis on Call of Duty that, honestly, puts anything that the Planetside community has done to shame.

The whole CoD-kiddie theory is simply a straw man approach based on a crude and largely incorrect stereotype. It doesn't make you seem any better or smarter than anyone else, it merely demonstrates an ignorance that I think anyone can rise above.

Besides, CoD never had orbital strike trolls.

[Rbstr]

Anyone that thought PS1's community was mature has a serious case of nostalgia goggles. PS 1 and 2 aren't so much games as chances to complain about things.

[DHoff]

Originally Posted by Haro

Honestly, don't buy into the whole PS1 had a better community thing. There are assholes in this game, there were assholes in the original.

As for the lancer, I think it looks pretty good. ESRLs aren't supposed to be upgrades, they're supposed to be sidegrades compared to the default rocket launchers, and are more situational, and therefore need to be used very differently. As far as I can tell, the current ESRLs all fit this bill at least decently (the striker toes the line here, crosses it as far as the annihilator is concerned) but I think we saw a video that demonstrates the weapons strengths and a good play style for employing them. Honestly, while I don't have much experience with the lasher myself (yet) the only change I think this thing could use is an upgradable scope with a bit more zoom.

Higher magnification would make it overpowered IMO. It is close to perfect as it sits. The only change I would like to see is a slight reload speed increase.

[Hamma]

Welcome to the internet. All gaming communities are just out to improve their own teams game balance, very few look at the big picture.