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Old 2013-04-06, 12:20 PM   [Ignore Me] #16
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Re: Anybody else delete their Vanu character after the new update?


It's funny because according to these numbers: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/...dTJpM1E&gid=22

The VS is being outnumbered by the opposing factions on 4 servers, while the TR is outnumbered by both NC and VS on 5 of them.

Taking the TR as the active average population with 40k characters, the VS sit barely 2k less characters under them; this equals a whole continent population.

The NC outnumbers that by three times, with the top number of 6k characters above the TR's average (again, 40k); this equals the population of an entire server..
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Old 2013-04-06, 12:29 PM   [Ignore Me] #17
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Originally Posted by Radec View Post
It's funny because according to these numbers: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/...dTJpM1E&gid=22

The VS is being outnumbered by the opposing factions on 4 servers, while the TR is outnumbered by both NC and VS on 5 of them.

Taking the TR as the active average population with 40k characters, the VS sit barely 2k less characters under them; this equals a whole continent population.

The NC outnumbers that by three times, with the top number of 6k characters above the TR's average (again, 40k); this equals the population of an entire server..
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Wouldn't count on that data being close to accurate. It has Waterson as the most populated server, which I doubt. If you want to look at it as if TR is hurting, TR is the highest population on 4 servers and VS is highest on 1. There's an overall activity tab in that spreadsheet that is a lot better to use, as it illustrates the problem the VS has had since launch. Continually decreasing population since release.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/...UdTJpM1E&gid=3
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Old 2013-04-06, 12:36 PM   [Ignore Me] #18
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Originally Posted by Assist View Post
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Wouldn't count on that data being close to accurate. It has Waterson as the most populated server, which I doubt.
I have been assuming for the last 3 weeks that Waterston now has the highest pop - at least of American server.

We have queues every night. Im guessing some of the 4rth empire that played Vanu migrated here.
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Old 2013-04-06, 12:36 PM   [Ignore Me] #19
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Originally Posted by Radec View Post
It's funny because according to these numbers: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/...dTJpM1E&gid=22

The VS is being outnumbered by the opposing factions on 4 servers, while the TR is outnumbered by both NC and VS on 5 of them.

Taking the TR as the active average population with 40k characters, the VS sit barely 2k less characters under them; this equals a whole continent population.

The NC outnumbers that by three times, with the top number of 6k characters above the TR's average (again, 40k); this equals the population of an entire server..
Its a very server specific problem. Also the graph is outdated. Miller is 35-40% TR right now... NC is nowhere near the highest pop.

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I have been assuming for the last 3 weeks that Waterston now has the highest pop - at least of American server.

We have queues every night. Im guessing some of the 4rth empire that played Vanu migrated here.
Is Waterson the "default" Server if you create a character? If it is maybe you just got all the EU player that went to an US server when our servers are down?^^ And they are down quite a lot...
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Old 2013-04-06, 12:43 PM   [Ignore Me] #20
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Originally Posted by Ghoest9 View Post
I have been assuming for the last 3 weeks that Waterston now has the highest pop - at least of American server.

We have queues every night. Im guessing some of the 4rth empire that played Vanu migrated here.
You have queues every night. The Vanu have never had queues to get on and I've never seen a queue on more than one continent at a time.

It has us having 25% more active users than Miller, which I doubt considering how everyone always says Miller is jam packed on all continents. I guess they could all be exaggerating, but that chart has us way above all other servers.
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Old 2013-04-06, 06:01 PM   [Ignore Me] #21
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Originally Posted by Assist View Post
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Wouldn't count on that data being close to accurate. It has Waterson as the most populated server, which I doubt. If you want to look at it as if TR is hurting, TR is the highest population on 4 servers and VS is highest on 1. There's an overall activity tab in that spreadsheet that is a lot better to use, as it illustrates the problem the VS has had since launch. Continually decreasing population since release.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/...UdTJpM1E&gid=3
I am pretty sure waterson has been the highest pop US server since the merger. It is always the first to hit high pop, some nights the only high pop US server, and the last to drop back down to medium. Ive been watching just out of curiosity.
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Old 2013-04-06, 06:16 PM   [Ignore Me] #22
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Not me. I love being outnumbered, so VS is right up my alley. It's the whole reason I chose the purple guys on VS Markov ten years ago.

"We're surrounded? You mean we can attack in all directions!?"
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Old 2013-04-06, 06:17 PM   [Ignore Me] #23
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if you switch empires based on perception of how powerful any of their specific weapons platforms are, you aren't needed.
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Old 2013-04-06, 06:17 PM   [Ignore Me] #24
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^

Doble post? Hrm don't remember clicking it twice.

Waterson Vanu foLIFE! =D

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Old 2013-04-06, 06:37 PM   [Ignore Me] #25
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Originally Posted by Assist View Post
You have queues every night. The Vanu have never had queues to get on and I've never seen a queue on more than one continent at a time.

It has us having 25% more active users than Miller, which I doubt considering how everyone always says Miller is jam packed on all continents. I guess they could all be exaggerating, but that chart has us way above all other servers.
Well, miller was biggest server, but during my playtime, it has never been quite full. Indarside like all of them. At the moment woodman has a lot more players online all the time.

To OP: Why do you think vs population is bad. It's because of people like you.
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Old 2013-04-06, 06:55 PM   [Ignore Me] #26
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What I want to know is what is with the sudden surge of NC players. NC and TR were always 1 to 1 and now all the VS are leaving to be NC? Why is the NC so appealing all of the sudden?
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Old 2013-04-06, 07:03 PM   [Ignore Me] #27
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Originally Posted by Ghoest9 View Post
You get no sympathy from anyone who Stayed NC from the start.
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And that wasn't too many people. Lots of NC are 4th factioners
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Old 2013-04-06, 07:13 PM   [Ignore Me] #28
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Originally Posted by Illtempered View Post
Not me. I love being outnumbered, so VS is right up my alley. It's the whole reason I chose the purple guys on VS Markov ten years ago.

"We're surrounded? You mean we can attack in all directions!?"
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Old 2013-04-06, 07:54 PM   [Ignore Me] #29
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Originally Posted by Saintlycow View Post
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And that wasn't too many people. Lots of NC are 4th factioners
Hey, I'll be honest. I've been NC-only since launch! Not like that's relevant, though.

On the topic of Waterson, I am pretty sure it's the highest populated server in the entire game. TR and NC get pop locked on every continent regularly, locking people into the VR training zone.

On the topic of PS2 population, wow... it has been on an incredibly sharp decline. From what I calculated, the game is losing an average of six thousand active players per day. At this rate, it'll be dead before summer.

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Old 2013-04-06, 11:51 PM   [Ignore Me] #30
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Re: Anybody else delete their Vanu character after the new update?


If I may, allow me to diagnose what at least I believe is the problem.

Most of that vanu population joined because the faction was pretty overpowered and had easy to use weapons. That's a given. This is not to say all the vanu population, as I know people such as Assist are vanu, through and through. But the power of the vanu is what used to attract people to the faction.

Now, it's not there. So, people are left with the aesthetics of the faction which, quite frankly, are awful. People generally don't want to be dressed in all-purple tights. If they want the Vanu population to return, they need to do some cosmetic overhauling; make the vanu look a bit more badass.
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