the HA adjustments are perfect

[NapalmEnima]

Originally posted by Ghost06
Yes I do know what plasma is. It takes a whole lot of energy to accelerate matter into a plasma form, and that usually translates into heat. What I was saying is that the projecticle is moving so quickly that the air around it is heated (accelerated if you must) into a plasma state.It'd be impossible for it not to when you compare the friction between the projectile and the air, you could actually use a proportion if you knew the round being used. If you want a demonstration of plasma, look at the sun. Yes, plasma is very, very hot. The 1 ton uranium slug is something I got from mechwarrior, sorry I know how railguns operate.

Forgive me, but it doesn't sound like you do.

Plasma has nothing to do with velocity. Some gasses have to get really hot before they give up their electrons, others do it at something close to room temperature (florecent lights), at HIGH VOLTAGE (and low amps).

You sound like someone who's heard just enough about something to leap to some (wrong) conclusions. That or you're not very good at explaining yourself.

But Don't take my word for it. Here's a link for ya. NASA knows what they're talking about:
http://www-istp.gsfc.nasa.gov/Education/wplasma.html

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[Happy lil Elf]

Spinning barrels have verv little effect on recoil. The primary reason for spinning barrels is to allow the gun to fire that quickly without melting the barrels. The very slight reduction in recoil is definately not enough to allow one to be fired by a soldier, at least not with current technology.

[Peacemaker]

Originally posted by Tryndamere
The chaingun on the A-10 Warthog has so much kick that when you fire it the plane slows down 100mph.

Powah~

Yay to the changes though

Acctualy the A-10 has a burst setting biult into the large cannon mounted under the nose. The GAU-30 30mm Roatary cannon has 7 barrels and when it fires it produces enourmous amounts of recoil. If the computer didnt limit the burst on the cannon a GAU could stop the plane in its tracks, the thrust made by the engines WILL be negated by the thrust made by the cannon. (actualy I saw a story somewere where some pilot shot off all the rounds he could to slow the plane as fast as possible, the result was an SA 13 missed him by 500 feet)

[Madcow]

Originally posted by Happy lil' Elf
How long does it take a MCG to kill a reinforced in direct fire? Not very long, in fact although I haven't actually times it, I bet it's right around 1.5 seconds. If you do have 18 Jackhammers in your locker, maybe you should try using them and then pay attention.

The Jackhammer has that power and accuracy out to about 15 meters though, whereas the MCG has the power but none of the accuracy. If 2 people ran up to each other and took no evasive maneuvers and opened fire the weapons are pretty even, but not otherwise.

[Happy lil Elf]

The Jackhammer isn't all that accurate from 15m. It's pretty decent but you do lose a pretty good chunk of your damage. The MCG however can be accurate at a much longer range. Also with the JH if you miss with a shot it's more costly to you than missing with a couple MCG shots, because in the time it takes for that 4rth shot to go off the MCG user can get another 4ish shots off.

With the changes there is more than enough accuracy in the short burst it takes to kill a reinforced to go toe to toe with a JH user, just make sure you've got at least 20m between the two of you and don't be suprised if you get killed if you bump into someone with a Jackhammer coming around the corner

In short, they're pretty well balanced now, at least imo

[JonnyK]

i play as NC on emerald and vanu on the test server, i think that the lasher is really good now on the test server. i saw probly 3 reavers get taken down by 2 or 3 guys shooting at them with lashers. but i was using one and it's still pretty hard to hit people, i'd say they're balanced.

[Doppler]

Originally posted by Karak
I was under the impression that chain guns in RL that are similar to the one we have in game. As in they have a rotary barrell. Are designed specifically to have next to no recoil. Instead of pushing back the spinning barrels negate the momentum to the side and there for removing the recoil. Making them very accurate because there is no recoil.

I think most of you are talking about just chain link feed machineguns. As in a very fast firing machine gun that needs a large amount of ammo to be useful, and there for is fed from very large boxes of ammo via a bullet chain device

If you look at the gun ingame you will see it does have i think 3 barrels in the rotary styl . So therefore shouldnt it have similar features to the rotary cannon =o.

The spinning barrells have little or no baring on recoil. In fact realisticly they whould make it worse.

[pauljar1]

Elf:

One-shot/One-Kills in this game are relative because there aren't any (unless you could snipers on infils). But, what other weapon can you say kills an infantry soldier in 3 rounds?! 3 ROUNDS!!!!

The JH is the only one to do it. (Don't count the MAXES and other vehicles). The MCG can do it in maybe the same time, but only if the barrel is inside your spine. I've personally killed other NC with the Jackhammer in 4 shots while running at them from over 20m away!

3 shots to kill and maybe 10-12 with the MCG? Maybe it will be made a level playing field again withe MCG changes.

[Happy lil Elf]

Number of shots is not what counts. What counts is time from first shot to the opponent dropping, which is roughly equal.

*edit* I'm talking about it being a level playing field on the test server, always have been. I've also been one of the loudest voices saying the MCG and Lasher needed loving, which they did, and are now getting.

[Ghost06]

Originally posted by NapalmEnima
Forgive me, but it doesn't sound like you do.

Plasma has nothing to do with velocity. Some gasses have to get really hot before they give up their electrons, others do it at something close to room temperature (florecent lights), at HIGH VOLTAGE (and low amps).

You sound like someone who's heard just enough about something to leap to some (wrong) conclusions. That or you're not very good at explaining yourself.

But Don't take my word for it. Here's a link for ya. NASA knows what they're talking about:
http://www-istp.gsfc.nasa.gov/Education/wplasma.html

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Alright, let me make it simple. You need energy to make a molecule change physical states. The more energy you add to a molecule, the faster the molecules that make the stuff up move & impact other molecules within the molecule. Add enough energy, and it is moving quickly enough to move from say, a liquid to a gas. Add enough, the electrons go lickity split and you have plasma. You need a lot of energy to do this. I was using friction because friction will cause heat, and heat will add energy to a substance (heat and cold come from how fast molecules are moving within ay given thing). In order for friction to translate into heat you must fist have some sort of velocity.

My science is a lil bit fuzzy, but I'm pretty sure I'm right.

[Happy lil Elf]

While that's theoretically possible, it's never been proven. Well that and a projectile traveling fast enough to turn air into plasma would have to be traveling so fast that it would disintegrate in all likelyhood.

[Cauldron Borne]

A stay puffed marshmellow launche at the speed of light at the earth would destroy the planet. It would not have time to disinigrate in the atmosphere.

If chain/mini guns provide to much kick to be held by a single soldier then why are heavy assult squads in the Army and Marines armed with them? One grunt+Minigun+10,000 round (easy to carry in a backpack/tub)+old car=scrap metal car in 4 minutes of firing. I've seen it happen. I'll have to find the movie and post it somewhere.

[VictoryRose]

Originally posted by Katanaboy
oops, sorry, i guess i was misinformed though i still find it strange that the empire with the fast rate of fire has to use controlled bursts

We Terran use bursts because we have the fastest rate of fire =)

[Happy lil Elf]

A stay puffed marshmellow launched at the speed of light at the earth would destroy the planet. It would not have time to disinigrate in the atmosphere.

Except rail guns do not throw things at the speed of light, not even close. Gratz for believing what you see in movies with "sound" scientific backgrounds like Eraser. And no, a stay puffed marshmellow wouldn't destroy the planet. Make a huge crater? Maybe. Blow up the planet like a super charged Death Star? No.

Anyways my point is we can't throw anything fast enough to turn air into plasma, no matter what you've seen in video games and movies. There just would be enough friction to superheat the air in an instant. And if you desgined a projectile to somehow create more friction, you screw yourself on range and accuracy.

[Cauldron Borne]

it was a HYPOTHETICAL state ment worked out mathematically. had nothing to do with RAILGUNS didn't even mention railguns. ASSUMING you could launch a StayPuffed Marshmellow at the speed of light it would indeed comlpletely desroy the earth.

Thank you; Thank you.

CB