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Old 2003-08-19, 03:20 PM   [Ignore Me] #31
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Preach brother... Preach...!!!!!
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Old 2003-08-19, 04:00 PM   [Ignore Me] #32
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Originally posted by SecondRaven
Ok about the new Core Combat thing�.We do not need it this soon. Why should we divide the PS community for one, two why do we need more bugs in the sys and lastly I don�t feel like paying once again more money to PS. Ok on the rational side per say you do release the Core combat. You are going to make the VS not so unique, you are going to make half of the PS community stronger in that they will be able to use the expansion pack wep/vech. You think there are lasher/Jackhammers whining people now? Haha wait until you get the people who don�t have the expansion pack, they are going to whine about not having it and how the people that do have it have a adv over them. This is just foreshadowing. Ok to end this and making it sound like I�m not a 12 year old whining. I think Dev needs to think; think hard on putting out Core combat.
about the people bitching .. who says these new weapons are ganna be over powered ???
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Old 2003-08-19, 04:02 PM   [Ignore Me] #33
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Originally posted by Happy lil' Elf
Thanks, Madcow, it was just as I thought.

Here it is in a nutshell for you. What you said had absolutely nothing to do with what you quoted. He was saying, albeit in a poor way, that complaining about this expansion before it comes out doesn't make a whole lot of sense. That you don't think you're getting enough for your money has nothing to do with that.
Wrong. He was stating that rather than bitch about what the people who buy the expansion might have, that people should stop complaining and buy the expansion themselves. I was making a point that things often times aren't that simple. The quote which I used encompassed more than what you're saying it did, if you read the whole thing.

Was I belittling you? No. In fact, Mr. Reading Comprehension, you'll see I in fact complimented you on your choice of having a parent stay home. Obviously that causes you to have to make scrafices but I'm sure you already knew that. That you don't think you're getting enough for your money is fine, that's entirely up to you especially considering your circumstances. But if you don't think you're getting enough for your money, don't buy the expansion. Hell, cancel your subscription. It's that simple. It also has nothing to do with someone telling people to at least see what the expansion has to offer before complaining about it.
Actually, you posted for the express purpose of saying that my 'story' had no point, even though I've already shown it did. I don't think I have to quote your message to show that, it's fairly obvious. Did you actually have a statement other than a compliment which is on fairly shaky ground in relation to the rest of the post, and then saying that my story had no point? If you did, please let me know what it was as I obviously missed it.

Lets try it this way. The quote you gave was a guy talking about people who were slamming the content of the expansion before it came out. You're irked that it's coming in an expansion and not free. You do see the difference in those arguments, right?
Again, not the full story. He is slamming people who are bringing up the fact that an expansion will possibly leave PS with the haves and the have nots in relation to new content. His response is to just buy the expansion and quit complaining. I won't reiterate my full message, but I'm fairly certain you can see how they correlate.

P.S. If you have such a low opinion of computer game boards and their occupants do me a favor and find somewhere else to play. I'm a little tired of seeing people try to play the "I'm smarter/better than you" game. Oh and please don't try and take the high an mighty road while trying to insult the boards at the same time. It's rather poor form.
I'm not in the mood for favors, and I wasn't slamming the full population of this or any other game board. Unfortunately, game boards in general (and most internet boards) are going to be chock full of people saying things like "you only think that because you're a whiny bitch" or who bother posting rather snobbish comments as I considered yours to be. There's certainly poor form to be found all around, and I'll be more than happy to own up to my share. Can you say the same?
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Old 2003-08-19, 04:08 PM   [Ignore Me] #34
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Re: Mad cow and his sob stories


Originally posted by ThEOnLyOnE
TO MADCOW:

EASY... easy.. u dont know me.. u know dick about me..
easy there.. Dad..

Im a Dad my self.. i dont live with Mommy or Daddy..
and i have a wife and a little girl.. and a good paying job..

your message was distrubing and was more of your sob story..
save it for those who care.. i dont..

o.. and your on my list pal..
well meet in the battlefield.. MoFo
You're right, I can only judge you on your handful of posts filled with your wannabe urban speak. As such I can only hope that your 'wife' and 'daughter' aren't subjected to such humor as "Ill fuck a ***** up wit the Jack!!" on a regular basis.
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Old 2003-08-19, 04:28 PM   [Ignore Me] #35
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Originally posted by Madcow
You're right, I can only judge you on your handful of posts filled with your wannabe urban speak. As such I can only hope that your 'wife' and 'daughter' aren't subjected to such humor as "Ill fuck a ***** up wit the Jack!!" on a regular basis.

DOnt Judge.. dont hope.. and worry about ur self only...
if you dont like my 'wannabe urban speak' like you said.. dont read my posts..
your nothing but a fucking sob story..

it is that easy.. if you really like the game you will play it expanison or not...regardless.. unless you cant offord the 13 a month..
then i can feel for someone..
but you .. cancel your subscribition.. why even play..
spend the time wit your kids.. youll save the money...
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Old 2003-08-19, 04:48 PM   [Ignore Me] #36
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Originally posted by ThEOnLyOnE
DOnt Judge.. dont hope.. and worry about ur self only...
if you dont like my 'wannabe urban speak' like you said.. dont read my posts..
your nothing but a fucking sob story..

it is that easy.. if you really like the game you will play it expanison or not...regardless.. unless you cant offord the 13 a month..
then i can feel for someone..
but you .. cancel your subscribition.. why even play..
spend the time wit your kids.. youll save the money...
I do spend the time with my kids, try reading the part where I mention that I don't have a lot of time to play the game. I only play after my children are in bed for the night, they're certainly more important than any game is.
Nothing that I've said has been a sob story. I don't bemoan my situation, I wouldn't trade it for anything. That doesn't change the fact that your black and white scenario doesn't exist for everybody, and it doesn't mean that everybody who doesn't agree with your flawed theory is wrong.
I like the game, but quite possibly not enough to buy the expansion and quite possibly not enough to keep subscribing once the expansion comes out. I've said no more and no less. I'm still waiting for more information from Sony before making that decision.
Don't you have a bridge to keep people from crossing or something?
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Old 2003-08-19, 04:51 PM   [Ignore Me] #37
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Eek my bad on the quote. Reading at work in what might be called a tiny window and I missed the second part of it so yes your story did in fact relate to his quote. My sincere appologies on that.

However, if you had left out the fact that you can in fact afford the expansion it would have been a better rebuttal. You yourself stated it's within your power to obtain the expansion. No one is saying you have to buy it, what they're saying is if you choose not to buy it, don't complain about your choice. It's childish. If there was no possible way for you to get it I might agree with you, although I'd also question why you're spending $12.95/mo on an MMOFPS if you're in that dire of straights.

I'm not in the mood for favors, and I wasn't slamming the full population of this or any other game board. Unfortunately, game boards in general (and most internet boards) are going to be chock full of people saying things like "you only think that because you're a whiny bitch" or who bother posting rather snobbish comments as I considered yours to be. There's certainly poor form to be found all around, and I'll be more than happy to own up to my share. Can you say the same?
Of course I can say the same. I should have left out my story as well but I thought it would be a good example of how in the end your story really has no bearing on this, in retrospect it really isn't.

Oh, yeah, and please tell me you realize how how hypocritical it is of you to call anyone snobbish.
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Old 2003-08-19, 04:58 PM   [Ignore Me] #38
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maybe u two should see whos kid could beat the other one up
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Old 2003-08-19, 05:05 PM   [Ignore Me] #39
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I don't have kids, Lil
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Old 2003-08-19, 05:13 PM   [Ignore Me] #40
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Originally posted by Happy lil' Elf
Eek my bad on the quote. Reading at work in what might be called a tiny window and I missed the second part of it so yes your story did in fact relate to his quote. My sincere appologies on that.
Thank you, that's the most mature thing I've seen on a message board in ages and I mean that sincerely.

However, if you had left out the fact that you can in fact afford the expansion it would have been a better rebuttal. You yourself stated it's within your power to obtain the expansion. No one is saying you have to buy it, what they're saying is if you choose not to buy it, don't complain about your choice. It's childish. If there was no possible way for you to get it I might agree with you, although I'd also question why you're spending $12.95/mo on an MMOFPS if you're in that dire of straights.
I'm not sure I have any idea how it's childish to not be pleased with paying for an expansion when I feel that I haven't truly received what was implied I would be receiving by paying my monthly fee. I don't think everybody has to toe the company line and gladly open their wallets just because Sony says it's a good idea. Of course Sony will gladly dig into your wallet if you let them do it. This board has more than it's share of Sony apologists, as well as more than enough people who question them a little too much. I fail to see how a message that doesn't exactly mimic your viewpoint needs to be jumped all over. I'm amazed that an obvious troll is garnering such support here.

Of course I can say the same. I should have left out my story as well but I thought it would be a good example of how in the end your story really has no bearing on this, in retrospect it really isn't.

Oh, yeah, and please tell me you realize how how hypocritical it is of you to call anyone snobbish.
I think everybody is a hypocrite to some degree, I have no problem admitting to being one of the masses. I've certainly had my snobbish moments. For some reason trolls can bring that out in me. Call it a personality flaw.

And just to make sure there's no miscommunication on this point, you aren't who I'm referring to as a troll. I'm sure you knew that, but I'd rather not have us repeat earlier
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Old 2003-08-19, 05:17 PM   [Ignore Me] #41
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Originally posted by Madcow
I do spend the time with my kids, try reading the part where I mention that I don't have a lot of time to play the game. I only play after my children are in bed for the night, they're certainly more important than any game is.
Nothing that I've said has been a sob story. I don't bemoan my situation, I wouldn't trade it for anything. That doesn't change the fact that your black and white scenario doesn't exist for everybody, and it doesn't mean that everybody who doesn't agree with your flawed theory is wrong.
I like the game, but quite possibly not enough to buy the expansion and quite possibly not enough to keep subscribing once the expansion comes out. I've said no more and no less. I'm still waiting for more information from Sony before making that decision.
Don't you have a bridge to keep people from crossing or something?
just like you i dont get to play the game alot.
just look at my stats.(and i have had the game since it came out). and rather spend time with my little girl anyday..

lets gets something straight here..
people bitch but still play the game.. if your pissed about the game.. dont play it.. its that simple.. if you like it.. then suck it up.. in the end its just a game.. thats my point..

Madcow... took what i said to some other level..
whinning about the .13cents a day..
about my terminology..

***** U DONT LIKE IT DONT READ!!!
suck it up MoFo you attacked me first!!!
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Old 2003-08-19, 05:19 PM   [Ignore Me] #42
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Originally posted by Lilbird2431
maybe u two should see whos kid could beat the other one up
my little girl.. is only 1 and change..
give her a couple of years..
hehe
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Old 2003-08-19, 05:38 PM   [Ignore Me] #43
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And just to make sure there's no miscommunication on this point, you aren't who I'm referring to as a troll. I'm sure you knew that, but I'd rather not have us repeat earlier
Whew ok. Good call on the clarification thing

I guess I'm just used to it. I learned awhile ago to not believe, well, just about anything SoE says until I see it for myself. They are the kings of misdirection. A typical message from them can usually be used as a textbook example of what to look for when looking for people with avoidance issues. I guess I've just sort of gone numb to the half lies/half truths they continually tell. I definately don't blame you for being irked about that at all.
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Old 2003-08-19, 06:13 PM   [Ignore Me] #44
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I think it is in slightly bad taste that SOE is releasing this expansion so soon. Of course, it's just now been announced, so it's probably at least 6 months off. Then again, it's not like they're going to bugtest and playtest it, so it might be sooner .

At this rate, I may as well wait for 2 expansions before I return and give this game another go round. As it stands, I don't think the gameplay is fulfilling enough to warrant $15/month, so I don't think paying $30 to do more of the same (but underground!!) will change that.

I'm forever the optimist, however... and I do think that the dev's hearts are in the right place, even if they don't have the skillz to back it up.

Incidentally, how have the populations been lately?
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