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Old 2003-09-06, 07:52 AM   [Ignore Me] #31
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Originally posted by Queensidecastle
What a ridiculous and stupid idea. Why cant people understand that monthly fees do not mean free expansions. Free content will always trickle out, such as the lib and skyguard, and it may always suck. If you are an adult that actually has a job, you would understand the simple economics that shit aint free and those devs work hard and expect to make money to pay the bills. If you think the profits from the monthly fee arent immediatly redirected back into the business, then you are extremely naive
Hello, your a tool.

Much like the screwdrivers in my tool box you do a job without complaint or more importantly, thought. The sad thing however is that my screwdriver serves me, you are a bought and paid for plow of corporate america. If you have ANY doubt that Sony and more speficly their SOE division has a pretty safe profit margin built into your monthly fee I suggest you find their corporate profile online, I will get you the link later. Furthermore you confuse economics "that shit aint free" while ignoring one of the basic pretenses "the cost paid will be what the market can bear". To you and your ilk I say the following.

Please do not disparage a peacefull grass roots movement in the player/consumer base. Not only does it make you look ignorant, It also seems to make you sound like a communist. You will be issued the game and it's features exactly according to your needs.

You cite the somewhat rough releases of other MMORPGS to date. I will grant that Planetside went fairly smooth, however when did we just accept buggy releases at the base line, what is wrong with players demanding that higher standard. It's cliche' "but if cars followed the same development process as software........they whould blow up once a year randomly killing everyone inside" and people whould be ok with that. Traditionaly in a MMORPG there is a lot more "content" in the game, mobs quests etc. I'm not saying that the ammount of content is bad or wrong, however it is not uncommon for people for free to release mods for games, especialy first person shooters. So in a game that all the gameplay is provided by other players, is it too much to ask that the game maker, who I pay a monthly stipend to, to provide more "toys" for "free".

It is a misnomer to think of the petition as requesting these items be provided "free" when in truth we've already paid for the core that everything else is laid upon and continue to pay for further development.
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Old 2003-09-06, 12:24 PM   [Ignore Me] #32
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Talk about a tool lol, that vomit was so funny it was almost worth reading but not quite
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Old 2003-09-06, 01:28 PM   [Ignore Me] #33
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Old 2003-09-06, 01:53 PM   [Ignore Me] #34
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That was nice


Personaly I dont think the petition has a snowball's chance in hell of getting it's stated goal done. Having said that I do very much support the effort, and am a little miffed when someone cannot state their opinion without ragging on someone else, and then does it poorly.
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Old 2003-09-06, 01:57 PM   [Ignore Me] #35
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If a game's price reflected its quality, you would have paid a hell of a lot more for PS than you did. Quit looking the gift-horse in the mouth and show some respect for the tremendous amount of skill and hard work that it took to make this game.
A gift whould imply that it was given freely this is a contradiction in terms of an expansion I'm going to have to pay money for.
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Old 2003-09-06, 02:05 PM   [Ignore Me] #36
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so i didint got it? i gotta subscribe to play with expansion again and pay 12x2 $?
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Old 2003-09-06, 02:30 PM   [Ignore Me] #37
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Shit dont give them ideas.

Your subscription price will remain the same although there will be an upfront cost for the expansion.
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Old 2003-09-06, 03:33 PM   [Ignore Me] #38
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I don't mind expansions. Hell knows I've bought them before and I don't mind paying for this one. What bothers me is there is they are bringing it out before known issues haven't been fixed and promised content hasn't been delivered. Trying to upgrade something that is broken is pointless and a waste of money.
Thats why I'm signing the petition. I don't necessarily believe that this should be a free expansion, but that all content should be free until the game is fixed and promised content is delivered. Either hold the expansion until that is taken care of, or give the content away free.
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Old 2003-09-06, 05:08 PM   [Ignore Me] #39
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Originally posted by Doppler
Shit dont give them ideas.

Your subscription price will remain the same although there will be an upfront cost for the expansion.


as far as i know, expansion can cost money IF it has completly new or completly upgraded engine with total rebuild of the game like Resistance expansion for Operation Flashpoint...but i dont want to pay 50$ for 3 vehicles and 2 new worlds!
no graphics optimization,no fixes of bugs..........that would make a tight push for their game if they will release it as big patch....30% of people will buy the pack.....but others will be still on old islands and other who bought it will want to stick with their friends,outfit members so the new lands will have only 5-50 people on it...
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Old 2003-09-06, 05:22 PM   [Ignore Me] #40
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Originally posted by CraZy
as far as i know, expansion can cost money IF it has completly new or completly upgraded engine with total rebuild of the game like Resistance expansion for Operation Flashpoint...but i dont want to pay 50$ for 3 vehicles and 2 new worlds!
no graphics optimization,no fixes of bugs..........that would make a tight push for their game if they will release it as big patch....30% of people will buy the pack.....but others will be still on old islands and other who bought it will want to stick with their friends,outfit members so the new lands will have only 5-50 people on it...
So you expect them to develop new areas, new weapons, new vehicles, and a new gameplay dynamic for FREE? The devs dont have to redesign PS to spend money. And if they spend money, they have to make it back with profit. I seriously doubt the expansion will cost $50 too. $30 at most. I dont know why you seem so unwilling to pay a mere $30 (more likely to be $20) for new stuff.
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Old 2003-09-06, 05:29 PM   [Ignore Me] #41
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Is this supposed to be a comical petition?
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Old 2003-09-06, 05:38 PM   [Ignore Me] #42
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Originally posted by X-113
So you expect them to develop new areas, new weapons, new vehicles, and a new gameplay dynamic for FREE? The devs dont have to redesign PS to spend money. And if they spend money, they have to make it back with profit. I seriously doubt the expansion will cost $50 too. $30 at most. I dont know why you seem so unwilling to pay a mere $30 (more likely to be $20) for new stuff.
Actualy yes I do but we've been through this. Team fortress counterstrike, tribes renegades, tribes shifter, and many many other mods for games just added weapons. I will bet you money it costs between 40-50$
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Old 2003-09-06, 07:40 PM   [Ignore Me] #43
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Originally posted by Hamma
Is this supposed to be a comical petition?
Ouch... harsh... Why don't you just tell him Santa doesn't exist and in the real world things cost money! Really make him cry...
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Old 2003-09-07, 08:23 AM   [Ignore Me] #44
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well......3 weapons 3 new tanks....i dont see graphics optimizations and thats the MAIN prob in PS now.....
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