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View Poll Results: Greif Points, Should they :
Go down faster 2 3.77%
Go down faster, but only if you log off. 11 20.75%
Be totaly re-evaluated, the current system is OTT and punishes accidental fire more than it punishes actual TKers. 13 24.53%
Stay the same, despite the inacuracy of weapons. 27 50.94%
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Old 2003-11-15, 12:00 AM   [Ignore Me] #31
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Controlling your weapon is more important than killing the enemy. TK'ing someone for any reason, especially revenge, is detrimental to your empire. The grief system has been tried like the patience of a mother of eight and the current incarnation is what was required to keep people from becoming full-time griefers.
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Old 2003-11-15, 12:35 AM   [Ignore Me] #32
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Originally Posted by Madcow
Yay, another thread where Terahertz bitches about the grief system.

Get over it. You went out of your way to grief somebody, warranted or not. You put yourself in a situation where an accident would get you close to lock down. Instead of an accident, you killed a vehicle too close to friendlies (your fault, especially with 500 grief already. Learn some restraint).

Basically your two options were to learn a little something from your carelessness or bitch about it for no reason. You chose poorly.

Well, I have to do SOMETHING while I wait for my grief to go down. Might as well give you guys somthing to attempt to feel superior about.
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Old 2003-11-15, 01:05 AM   [Ignore Me] #33
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They need a server where everyone is everyone else's enemy, all weapons are common pool and there's no rules against griefing. Kind of like Darktide meets PlanetSide. What fun that would be.
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Old 2003-11-15, 04:54 AM   [Ignore Me] #34
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Originally Posted by TheRagingGerbil
Even when the friendly charges that same prowler with his JH/Lasher/chaingun ablazin'?

No, he deserved to die. I should get more BEP.
Then deal with the grief. And smile with the exp.
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Old 2003-11-15, 06:07 AM   [Ignore Me] #35
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"Stay the same, despite the inacuracy of weapons."

Hell, I can't answer that. It's a biased poll. More like, stay the same, despite the inaccuarcy of others.
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Old 2003-11-15, 02:47 PM   [Ignore Me] #36
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You'll probably have figured out by now that grief goes down whether you're logged off or not, but the weaponlock timer stops counting down while you are logged off. It's pretty effective at making you regret being careless though, until you realize the Simpsons is on and you should just stay logged in at sanctuary.
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Old 2003-11-15, 03:06 PM   [Ignore Me] #37
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Originally Posted by DramaticFanatic
"Stay the same, despite the inacuracy of weapons."

Hell, I can't answer that. It's a biased poll. More like, stay the same, despite the inaccuarcy of others.
LOL, well said.

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Old 2003-11-16, 04:34 AM   [Ignore Me] #38
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1 solution is no friendly fire
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Old 2003-11-16, 07:03 AM   [Ignore Me] #39
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greif is fine the way it is.
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Old 2003-11-16, 08:37 AM   [Ignore Me] #40
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I understand the need for a grief system, but it is a bit nasty...My grief is 1060 at the moment, which means for the next few day, i have to basically stop shooting (tank driver), the main reason for my high grief, I was flailing a base, and a friendly gal flew into my line of fire, I couldn't see it, i was hitting lots of enemy, and a full gal appears....immediate uber grief, when i got my first weaplock i slowed down, did CE for awhile, but after a day and a half i stil had 890 grief, now its back up to 1060 (mainly from blowing tanks up surrounded by friendlies) myself and my gunner both have had weaplock on a few occasions. I just deal with it.

Overall i would like to see longer weaplocks to discourage tkers, but the grief should go down a lot faster, If i want to get my grief back to 0, I basically have to stand around in game CE'ing (boredom central) or log off for a few days, both of which i am loathe to do..

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Old 2003-11-16, 09:47 AM   [Ignore Me] #41
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Create a character on a different server, and go play there until your grief returns to normal. If you have multiple characters on the same server, they share the same grief level.
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Old 2003-11-16, 05:23 PM   [Ignore Me] #42
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Grief is account-wide, unless they changed it.
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Old 2003-11-16, 05:46 PM   [Ignore Me] #43
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They changed it, it's server based now. I don't like the grief system the way it is now, but I agree that it should be here. I don't like the fact that I have to stay logged on to get rid of a weapons lock. I mean, people walk in front of my fire all the time, they run in front of my vehicles, I've killed friendlies when I was the only one on the cont, explain that.
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Old 2003-11-16, 06:07 PM   [Ignore Me] #44
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You know there is one way to totally avoid greif, to stop people walking in front of you because of lag, to stop all the "Greif Freindly" weapons like the thumper being so Greif Freindly, and its so bloody obvious that nobody even thinks of it.

Stop Zerging.
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Old 2003-11-16, 06:21 PM   [Ignore Me] #45
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Actually the only way to not get grief is to not play the game.
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