New Patch Experiences

[noxious]

All I've decided from this patch thus far is wow, the lasher was buffed a lot. It may not seem like much but being able to lash at pointblank is an amazingly big buff. This, coupled with only 3 seconds of downtime for reload and a clip that can easily drop 3 enemies before that relod, and goodness, you have quite a weapon on your hands.

[Uberpimp]

So maxes are royally screwed!? aww I was thinking of making an armoured division with my friends.. (real ones not internent buddies WHICH are ok) Would've been nice. sigh

[Uberpimp]

But I personally think MAX users are the bravest and most patient people of all. They have to put up with a LOT of crap. Slow turning so unless some noob or retarded vet runs DIRECTLY in front of one boom your screwed. Plus theres so many other ways to die but I'm having a brain fart right now so a little help.... (no offense to any softies outhere)

[TheN00b]

Veteran, that might be a good idea, except for one thing: if we got the Decimator as our Emp AV, then you guys wouldn't have it. And that would make us too good in comparison to you guys against indoor MAXes .

[Unknown]

The reason for the mass AV usage is 3-fold:

• Ammo buff, carrying AV is much more feasable now that you have enough ammo to do some damage.
• It's new and improved, people want to try them out. For some this is temporary and they may forget it later, but I'm guessing most will keep it.
• Probably most importantly, Deci was moved to AV, and since most of the people with SA had it only for the Deci, when it moved to AV they all forgot SA and switched to AV.

We'll see how it plays out in the next week or two, but I'm guessing the mass AV usage is going to become somewhat of a standard.

[Rbstr]

I have to say all the people using pheonixes to snipe infantry are fools, your also a fool for getting killed by one.

The thing taks 5 shots to kill a infantry, thats over ten seconds TTK, anyone thats out in the open ten seconds deserves to die.

And if you say it can go around anything, the Truning radious on a phx is terrible, it can't hit a person if they are behind a wide object.

The JH is fixed, the stupid quadshot made me mad.

[MidnightDave]

rbstr the ttk from pheonix attacks is about .1 seconds when 50 or so are flying at the same mountainside/area. Me and the others didnt complain when 1 pheonix took us, we complained when a zerg armed to the teeth with em got us, it makes it appear overpowered, and severely limits tr/vs options to attack a base when we cant get from the tower to the gate without getting a barrage of missles from guys with 2 launchers and a rexo full of ammo who sit behind walls/in doorways/the other side of the freaking base.

Thats why I was bitching. Armor didnt stand a chance, I saw 6 prowlers die within a period of 15 seconds and infantry wasnt doing much better, it finally took an ams/router way outta the pheonix range and a pad really well done inside the base to take it. Spawning at the tower was a deathtrap.

[TheN00b]

Rbstr, I hate to admit it (I'm only NC), but Dave is right: The danger isn't from one Pheonix user taking you down, it's from freaking clouds of them that occur at things like bridge battles. Last night, for example, I was fighting a bridge battle on Esamir, and those of us not in Vanguards or Air (around 70) mostly grabbed Pheonixes. All we had to do was crouch behind large rocks or hills, and we slaughtered any vehicle, MAX, or infantry that showed it's face from behind the trees. Some of the Mags that tried to cross were hit by over 50 rockets at once . It was kinda' sick .

[MidnightDave]

thanks noob, similar experience from the other standpoint was a battle for gunuku last night. If those bridges werent a SOB to get across before, my god. It took an organized deliv offensive over the water to grab a foothold. That was a my life for a magrider situation.

[Madcow]

Originally Posted by MidnightDave

thanks noob, similar experience from the other standpoint was a battle for gunuku last night. If those bridges werent a SOB to get across before, my god. It took an organized deliv offensive over the water to grab a foothold. That was a my life for a magrider situation.

I was there, that was one of the better battles I've had a chance to play in. TR pushing in from the north, VS from the south and Gunuku was the only base the NC had left. Somehow we (the NC) kept Gunuku going long enough that the VS backhacked enough bases from the TR to pull them away from their offensive. Once they pulled back we pushed to the SE tower and took it after a long fight from the VS. Then the massive bridge battle which kept going back and forth and which I unfortunately had to log off in the middle of.
The only thing that tainted the battle were the flails on both sides which were just raining death on friend and foe alike.
I did get to see the Phoenix numbers in action, although I wasn't one of the culprits. Watching a Magrider trying to flee across the water with 3 Phoenix missiles right on his tail was actually a refreshing sight to see. Watching Phoenix missiles pounding everything moving on the other side of the bridge was less refreshing, but pretty stinking effective. It was also nice enough to distract a few people from paying attention to those of us infils who made our way across.

[MidnightDave]

lol ya man, I nearly shot a few of our own flails myself. and as for the vs for once, couldnt they have not backhacked us? those SOBs

[Queensidecastle]

I have a rule where if I see a Flail TK 5 or more people at once I send them a tell congratulating on how much they rock at Planetside

[MidnightDave]

lol then u would have loved this guy. he set up a flail and fired in teh main door of a tech plant, at point blank range. He got 30 at once, I blew him up with my lighting.

[TheN00b]

Seriously, if Flails were used well, they'd be great, but as they are, they're one of the worst things in Planetside.

[Vick]

Two issues:

1. Mass strikers against air craft and mass phoenix use against everything else seems kinda lame.

2. Lasher buff and rexo buff is perfect for vanubes, now they can absorb tons of damage while firing blindly and still hitting you. The reload-clip buff was fine, but that 5m no lash was there for a reason.