Quick question, how strict is the NDA during beta?

[ThGlump]

Originally Posted by Graywolves

Unless the NDA states otherwise I intend to record and prepare some things so that it can be ready after the NDA is lifted.


As I said, unless it is stated otherwise.

Be quiet. They are reading this site. Now you put it in their mind and they add that line to NDA. I blame you

[Shogun]

first: never ever violate beta nda in any form. it´s not only a legal problem, it can even hurt the game and the game´s image.
if others do, simply ignore it, or even report them to soe.
stockpiling footage for after nda drop may be possible or not. depends on the details in the nda we don´t know yet.
but it will always be an option to record something, and send it to the devs for approvement. soe can grant you the right to show off stuff, just ask them for every single bit of content.
like higby said in the latest hardcore interview, the communication between devs and community is the best part of ps2 developement. some years ago i wouldn´t have suggested such an impossible thing as to contact a developer of a game and get an answer ;-)

[Mastachief]

Yeh the NDA is pretty much in the name. Like hamma says it may extend to anything filmed in the nda beta. This will help prevent embarrassing bug videos and the like.

Unfortunately as the beta sample grows this will become impossible to police.

[texico]

I actually read the terms before signing up for Beta, although I can't remember all the details. However, it did talk about something along the lines of a NDA, and I vaguely recall it mentioning that it could be against the terms to record any footage or take any screens.

I definitely remember it stating that a specific forum for testers would be opened, which is the only place you'd be allowed to talk about Beta, and only to other beta testers.

I can't find the terms again though.

[Vash02]

If they expect people to not take any screenies or video I laugh at their naivety. Ha.

[Crator]

I was gonna say, how can they tell if the screenshots/video are made during beta? I can see if they are posted before the NDA is over how it could be an issue. But are they really gonna police every screenshot/video after the NDA is over to check to make sure they weren't made during beta?

[cellinaire]

Originally Posted by Vash02

I doubt it even has a NDA. I mean they just released possibly tens of thousands of keys in PC-Gamer. if someone releases some footage they probably wont be caught.

Talking about guilty pleasure. Haha!

[stordito]

first rule of the fight club...

[SuperMorto]

EVILPIG, im not fishing for anything, but I have used the ignore button for that remark, please get a grasp of and OPer (me) before making comments. You clearly have no idea what I'm about. And wishing me and my project good luck does nothing to me after an insulting reply.

Ok folks I'm not out to break the NDA, I'm not thief or a cheater, I do respect companies and individuals. Please drill that into your head before you make silly posts about me. Or the the ignore button will be released along with the hounds! But lets get this strait, I'm not gona sit back and watch others freely stream and upload videos without any problems.

So I put it on SOE's head to make it clear to me what can and cant be done, and to keep the NDA updated ferociously. I will abide by every rule with no problems if this is done.

Originally Posted by Shogun

first: never ever violate beta nda in any form. it´s not only a legal problem, it can even hurt the game and the game´s image.
if others do, simply ignore it, or even report them to soe.
stockpiling footage for after nda drop may be possible or not. depends on the details in the nda we don´t know yet.
but it will always be an option to record something, and send it to the devs for approvement. soe can grant you the right to show off stuff, just ask them for every single bit of content.
like higby said in the latest hardcore interview, the communication between devs and community is the best part of ps2 developement. some years ago i wouldn´t have suggested such an impossible thing as to contact a developer of a game and get an answer ;-)

@ Shogun, Finally a reply I was after. This look more like the info I needed. I have never been in a beta, well not one I can remember anyway. So I don't know many of the written and unwritten rules. I may try a little harder with SOE to get some approval to show stuff later in the beta.

Originally Posted by Vash02

If they expect people to not take any screenies or video I laugh at their naivety. Ha.

This was the original reason I made this "odd thread" to understand how things worked and how strict the NDA will be. And.... that was all stated in the title.

Originally Posted by Mastachief

Yeh the NDA is pretty much in the name. Like hamma says it may extend to anything filmed in the nda beta. This will help prevent embarrassing bug videos and the like.

Unfortunately as the beta sample grows this will become impossible to police.

Thats another point, will SOE just wait for level of content to be on the internet before they lift it? I just hope the community get the heads up before the folks who don't care about NDA's etc.

Morto.

[Yutty]

Originally Posted by texico

I definitely remember it stating that a specific forum for testers would be opened, which is the only place you'd be allowed to talk about Beta, and only to other beta testers.

This

[sylphaen]

Originally Posted by SuperMorto

EVILPIG, im not fishing for anything, but I have used the ignore button for that remark, please get a grasp of and OPer (me) before making comments. You clearly have no idea what I'm about. And wishing me and my project good luck does nothing to me after an insulting reply.

Sorry Morto but I think you are overreacting. Evilpig did have a point.

What's the point of a public thread asking to people if they will act in a dishonorable fashion and breach a non-disclosure agreement ?

We all know NDAs can be breached successfully without getting caught. Those documents work first and foremost on honorable conduct.

A thread about guessing how strict the NDA would be can be fun since it's all about conjectures, assumptions and opinions. However, trying to get a feel of who will break an NDA should be done... In private.

I think that's what Evil tried to say and not to insult you. And if I read it wrong, maybe I just do not understand what you mean and you can discard this opinion.

[Hamma]

What exactly ARE you asking then Morto.

[SuperMorto]

Originally Posted by Hamma

What exactly ARE you asking then Morto.

The reason I kick off is most of you have me all wrong. You imply alot when it comes to me, most of you just like having a dig when you can and that is a fact. Also some of you may have valid points, but im afraid you get dragged into the shit storm with the other fools. Thats just the way it is. I get very defensive on this site only because of the actions of the people on it. I make my own choices remember that.

And Hamma, I'm surprised at you.

Tittle of this thread says it all:

Quick question, how strict is the NDA during beta?

Its not to hard for you all is it?

Grr.

[sylphaen]

Well, to answer strictly to that question:
- either no one knows because beta has not started and thus no one had to agree to a NDA.
- or some people are in beta and the NDA is as strict as the fight club's NDA because no one in beta has talked about beta.

[XPquant]

Honestly, I really don't see the point of this thread. The NDA will be clear. When the NDA ends will be clear. Though you stated you won't violate it SuperMotto, you're fishing for a "feel" of who will and whether people should. There is technically nothing wrong with the question, but it doesn't seem like a very smart thing to be doing given you are looking to establish a relationship with the developers and gain some exclusive content for your project. From this end, it appears untrustworthy, whether it was your intention or not.

Not a knock on your project, in fact, I commend you for trying. I hope it works out as a valuable resource.

+1 EVILPIG