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Old 2012-04-05, 03:05 PM   [Ignore Me] #31
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I think it would be cool if when the turret is unmanned, it looks just like that. But when you take control of the turret, Shields appear at the sides of the turret to protect the operator from fire, there could be a gap in the middle to keep the user from being headshotted, or it could envelope the front half of the turret almost entirely and leave the operator only vulnerable from the back/partly the sides. (I'd assume the shield would be slightly dome-shaped.) It could either block damage entirely, or could be destructible after enough fire, that then leaves the operator able to be killed directly. But if they're untouched for a short while they recharge like the old Field Turrets or our own shielding. You could destroy the turret itself by just shooting the turret, or try to beat through the shields to kill only the operator.

Or it could have different defensive measures per Empire. VS get the shield (But more stylized towards the VS, Hex shaped or sharp/scale-like shield effects), TR could get some kind of rounded bullet-resistant glass, and the NC could have the oldschool armor plates.
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Old 2012-04-05, 04:33 PM   [Ignore Me] #32
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I was fully expecting some sort of bullet shield on the turrets.
Ah well...maybe it can be placed behind the engineer's deployable shields.
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Old 2012-04-05, 04:47 PM   [Ignore Me] #33
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That turret looks sexy.


I want to shoot it at everything.
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Old 2012-04-05, 07:36 PM   [Ignore Me] #34
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Gonna buy the in-store helmet with two of these mounted on the sides of it.
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Old 2012-04-05, 08:28 PM   [Ignore Me] #35
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As a sniper I agree with the need for a bullet shield, it will be too easy to kill them otherwise. Also I agree with the footprint being too small, my brain was just hammering away about how top heavy it was. But that's just one of those engineering things, like how the antenna on the C4 looks more like a microphone receiver than anything you'd actually want or need for explosives, could easily fit a good sized antenna inside the case attached to the explosive.
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Old 2012-04-05, 08:56 PM   [Ignore Me] #36
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Originally Posted by Captain1nsaneo View Post
As a sniper I agree with the need for a bullet shield, it will be too easy to kill them otherwise. Also I agree with the footprint being too small, my brain was just hammering away about how top heavy it was. But that's just one of those engineering things, like how the antenna on the C4 looks more like a microphone receiver than anything you'd actually want or need for explosives, could easily fit a good sized antenna inside the case attached to the explosive.
Thank you sire, at least someone has brought it up. A bullet shield that at least partially covers the upper body+head would help so much as well as look far better. People can still shoot their legs off of course, it would just at least give the turret guy a warning with which to abandon the turret before death.
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Old 2012-04-05, 09:00 PM   [Ignore Me] #37
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I thought those turrets we saw that were deployed on a base were the MANA turrets. You know, the ones with the AA, AV, AI configurations?
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Old 2012-04-06, 12:02 AM   [Ignore Me] #38
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Originally Posted by Atheosim View Post
I thought those turrets we saw that were deployed on a base were the MANA turrets. You know, the ones with the AA, AV, AI configurations?
Those were base turrets.




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Old 2012-04-06, 12:04 AM   [Ignore Me] #39
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MAN a turret....Hahaha lol

and that looks cool =)
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Old 2012-04-06, 12:56 AM   [Ignore Me] #40
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I think this is just to show us what the gun looks like. The current manned turret that an advanced engineer can deploy in PS1 has an enclosed cage for the operator and it is protected by a shield like a vehicle and regenerates. It fires like an unmanned turret Phoenix turret in a base, but with a narrower cone of fire. It can take out wounded vehicles before its own shields go down and two or more in cross-fire can be deadly. The problem is, it can only deployed outside of a friendly SOI and not within range of other deployable turrets or TRAPs. If you do not man them after a set period of time, they deconstruct.

I believe it has been stated that the turrets in PS2 will come in AI and AV and possibly AA versions.

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Do we know if it will be possible to shoot the operator?
Wouldn't really make sense if we couldn't given how exposed it looks, but then they will be sniperfodder
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Old 2012-04-06, 01:21 AM   [Ignore Me] #41
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Originally Posted by Skitrel View Post
Thank you sire, at least someone has brought it up. A bullet shield that at least partially covers the upper body+head would help so much as well as look far better. People can still shoot their legs off of course, it would just at least give the turret guy a warning with which to abandon the turret before death.
Eyup, needs a gun-shield. That would pretty much fix everything both aesthetically and functionally.
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Old 2012-04-06, 02:51 AM   [Ignore Me] #42
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Originally Posted by Wargrim View Post
The gun looks cool, but the tripod definitely is of a type that is not fit for for the job. Too small of a footprint, it would not work outdoors with wind, uneven ground, such a heavy thing on top that is moveable and produces recoil. It either needs a larger footprint, or some sort of spikes/ground nails that attach it to the ground to look more believable.
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Old 2012-04-06, 03:50 PM   [Ignore Me] #43
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the turret should have a red laser, and say "i see you!"

I love turrets, the ammount of time i spent on TF2 just spacking my wrench against them while i rocked the kill count. Be interested to see how these are implimented. What are the specifics? Could theoretically 20 engineers put them guarding a door, and once theyre killed all continue the fight themselves?
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Old 2012-04-06, 04:02 PM   [Ignore Me] #44
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Now that I think about it, no gun shield could make sense if you can put down turrets inside a base. Think about it, if an engineer puts down this turret in a hallway, and the turret has fast TTK, wouldn't you want at least some vulnerabilities?


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Old 2012-04-06, 04:24 PM   [Ignore Me] #45
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Actually if you think about it, we would be in a society with clones and respawns where soldiers are a dime a dozen. Everything is throw away and a bullet shield would be seen as a waste of resources. (an in character explanation)

So I can see a commander tell a grunt to run out there, set up this gun and spam bullets till you die.

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