I'm very worried about lag.

[SKYeXile]

Originally Posted by Dogbolta

Oceanic players are kinda of use to it now but to those in the USA that have to switch from East Coast to West Coast or vice versa its considered game breaking.
In AU we have no issues playing on servers on the other side of the country (eg. Perth > Syd) or across the Tasman to NZ.

What about those services offering lower pings, could they be implemented into the game or provided by SOE. They seemed to work quite well for those using them in WoW.
Perhaps another side cash opportunity for SOE.

nah thats just because wows netcode was shit. they have fixed it now, no reason to use a tunnel, you wont beat 150ms to san jose. id expect 180ms ping min if you play on the east coast of aust. Which imo is playable for us.

this is my speedtest from work.



on occasion i got close to that ping in PS(on markov anyway), but it would range from 180-220. a tunnel isn't going to do much to fix the 13,000km off travel across the pacific.

this is SOE, no blizzard. blizzard had this enabled in wow:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nagle%27s_algorithm

Applications that expect real time responses can react poorly with Nagle's algorithm. Applications such as networked multiplayer video games expect that actions in the game are sent immediately, while the algorithm purposefully delays transmission, increasing bandwidth at the expense of latency. For this reason applications with low-bandwidth time-sensitive transmissions typically use TCP_NODELAY to bypass the Nagle delay.[3]

thats why we all got fucked up pings, cause they're RETARDED.

[Nabeshin]

As long as I don't get chinasided in the back after being seperated by 3 flights of tower stairs I'll live with whatever they come up with.

[SKYeXile]

Originally Posted by Nabeshin

As long as I don't get chinasided in the back after being seperated by 3 flights of tower stairs I'll live with whatever they come up with.

it is still going to behave like clinetside, so thats probably likly...dont know about 3 stairs flight, but yea, still expect to die around corners.

[Nabeshin]

Originally Posted by SKYeXile

it is still going to behave like clinetside, so thats probably likly...dont know about 3 stairs flight, but yea, still expect to die around corners.

You could have lied just to make me feel better Sky, you bastard.

[Brusi]

Originally Posted by GameCobra

The other issue is PC handling for people that are still 9 years old =P

would those PCs still work, i wonder?

Are we talking about 9 year olds playing Planetside? Cause i have a feeling that they will have some trouble at first, but will get better at it with practise.

They can learn the ropes from all the 12 year olds.

[Anderz]

Originally Posted by RadarX

Lag and stability are top concerns and we have folks on them.

I just HOPE to the high heavens that there is an Australian server. Any FPS with a ping above 150-200 is crippling in my experience.

[KALU]

Originally Posted by Anderz

I just HOPE to the high heavens that there is an Australian server. Any FPS with a ping above 150-200 is crippling in my experience.

I dont think we will be getting a AUS server - so dont get your hopes up sorry dude...

I would play on U.S anyways as i have all my friends from PS1 on there, and they are actually more important to me than ping surprisingly.....

[DirtyBird]

No really relevant to anything but, if you are still at work SKYeXile try that test to the San Jose Internode link, I assume you used the SmugMug? cos i get a similar result as you to there and shit to the other.

[SKYeXile]

Originally Posted by Dogbolta

No really relevant to anything but, if you are still at work SKYeXile try that test to the San Jose Internode link, I assume you used the SmugMug? cos i get a similar result as you to there and shit to the other.

That was the internode, but that connection is raw fibre, location right on the backbone, if you get better than that, you;re doing pretty well. best iv ever got it to san jose is 150ms.

this is my test from home.

[KALU]

Originally Posted by Anderz

I just HOPE to the high heavens that there is an Australian server. Any FPS with a ping above 150-200 is crippling in my experience.

Originally Posted by SKYeXile

That was the internode, but that connection is raw fibre, location right on the backbone, if you get better than that, you;re doing pretty well. best iv ever got it to san jose is 150ms.

this is my test from home.

yep 200ms sound BANG ON! correct from memory of the old west coast servers.

Very playable IMO

[IHateMMOs]

I played Planetside on a gaming LAPTOP and it was smooth as hell, and that was years ago, now they have the technology to support that many players. Why are you guys so worried? Think happy thoughts.

[UKSwiFT]

Seeing as they've designed ForgeLight in-house specifically for this kind of thing, you can expect performance to be considerably better. Especially as higher speed connections are now the norm. I'd also say that their experience with dealing with what they had back in '03 puts them into a good position for avoiding the mistakes they made and building upon what worked well.

Lag would pretty much kill the game, so I'd say they probably have a sizeable investment in squashing any problems of that nature. I wouldn't worry.

[Xyntech]

PS1 did a pretty damn good job considering everything it had going against it at the time, and SOE has had a lot of experience since then. PS1 couldn't be tweaked hardly at all, while this time they seem to be keeping an eye towards the future with Forgelight. Combine this with the fact that network architecture and peoples internet connections have improved, and I don't think it's anything to get too worried about.

We know that Higby has said that having 1000 people standing in the same place would be a problem, but having all 500 players stand in the same place on a PS1 continent wasn't ever a real world scenario in actual gameplay. So as long as they do a good job of spreading the populations among a few major and several minor battles, I'm pretty confident that PS2 will perform as well as or better than PS1 across the board.

This really falls into the same category as F2P concerns though. It's just a fact of the matter that the game needs to perform well to keep players interested. I'm confident that the devs have this, because they need to have it. If they don't have it handled, then there is no amount of doubt or confidence in the world that would change the fact that the game would fail.

So just don't lose any sleep over it and let the professionals do their job. This isn't one of those gameplay or balance or aesthetic issues where we can really make a valuable contribution to the development by talking an idea through.

[RadarX]

Originally Posted by KTNApollo

Could you say that you have top men working on it?

I save that line for when the servers go down unexpectedly.

I could have elaborated yesterday but typing on an iPad can be awful so I'll do it now. We absolutely understand the effect lag can have on a gameplay experience especially in regards to PvP based FPS combat. It's a top priority and there are folks doing their absolute best to make sure the issue is mitigated if not eliminated all together.

[Karriz]

I'm a bit worried about bandwith usage. 64, even 128 players is all fine on my 1mb connection, but what about 2000? Is player data sent from the whole continent area?