Gore Pack Idea

[Gugabalog]

Originally Posted by JHendy

Are you also imagining that being screamed in the voice of Joe from Family Guy?

Please tell me yes.

I am now XD

[RageMasterUK]

I am 100% pro choice. Its not a necessity for me to enjoy the game, but I would buy it if the price was reasonable.

[Trip]

Originally Posted by IDukeNukeml

There is absolutely ZERO reason to have gore in games. It is uncalled for, it desesitizes kids AND adults who are playing and it is ALWAYS completely inaccurate.

If you want to see gore, join the army and volunteer for a high-risk Afghanistan mission. You will see all the gore you want.

SOE, keep it out of the damn games. It's just completely uncalled for... in a purchasable or otherwise.

maybe we should remove death and killing from the game too, dont want the kids getting desensitized. We should remove guns too, guns can be dangerous and we dont want the kids thinking that theyre toys. While im at it, travel to other planets is super dangerous, you need all sorts of safety measures, training, special equipment and experts to pull that off successfully. So...you know....for the kids, lets remove that. The new setting should be Wisconsin, but no cheese, because if you eat to much cheese you raise your cholesterol and increase your risk of heart disease. Heart disease is serious business. Alright, that about takes care of the game i think, its ready for the children of america to play.

new from SOE "sit on a lawn chair in wisconsin...in the shade... with sunscreen on...cause skin cancer: the game"

as for the gore pack, i think thats a fine idea. If enough people want it, then do it up.

[Badjuju]

Originally Posted by IDukeNukeml

There is absolutely ZERO reason to have gore in games. It is uncalled for, it desesitizes kids AND adults who are playing and it is ALWAYS completely inaccurate.

If you want to see gore, join the army and volunteer for a high-risk Afghanistan mission. You will see all the gore you want.

SOE, keep it out of the damn games. It's just completely uncalled for... in a purchasable or otherwise.

Haha get out of here with the desensitized BS. People can distinguish between RL and a game, especially when gore is never realistic. There is no substitute for experiencing death/injury in real life. They have done many studies that show violent/gory video games do not effect peoples up-bringing if they are raised in a normal environment. I am an ex marine, have watched a plethora of very violent movies, played violent video games, and I still felt awful for shooting a bird with a BB gun a while back. I haven't been desensitized in slightest. If being in the military does anything, it makes you more sensitive to fucked up shit, you just learn how to deal with it better. When dealing with a game, people do not associate in game events with what they would do in RL, or you would have to say just shooting some one in a game desensitizes people. I don't feel the need for gore in the game, but if the developers wanted to do it and people wanted to pay for it, then that would be their choice.

[ArmedZealot]

I'd pay for it.

Originally Posted by IDukeNukeml

There is absolutely ZERO reason to have gore in games. It is uncalled for, it desesitizes kids AND adults who are playing and it is ALWAYS completely inaccurate.

If you want to see gore, join the army and volunteer for a high-risk Afghanistan mission. You will see all the gore you want.

SOE, keep it out of the damn games. It's just completely uncalled for... in a purchasable or otherwise.

Woah.

[Gugabalog]

Originally Posted by Badjuju

Haha get out of here with the desensitized BS. People can distinguish between RL and a game, especially when gore is never realistic. There is no substitute for experiencing death/injury in real life. They have done many studies that show violent/gory video games do not effect peoples up-bringing if they are raised in a normal environment. I am an ex marine, have watched a plethora of very violent movies, played violent video games, and I still felt awful for shooting a bird with a BB gun a while back. I haven't been desensitized in slightest. If being in the military does anything, it makes you more sensitive to fucked up shit, you just learn how to deal with it better. When dealing with a game, people do not associate in game events with what they would do in RL, or you would have to say just shooting some one in a game desensitizes people. I don't feel the need for gore in the game, but if the developers wanted to do it and people wanted to pay for it, then that would be their choice.

I agree. The only people that fail to distinguish the difference are either infantile, not even child like, in mentality or using it as an excuse.

[Sledgecrushr]

Im a big 40k fan so when the game Space Marine came out I pre ordered. Now SM is a bloody game, there were times it was literally raining blood and body parts. Now we dont have to go that far with a gore pack but yeah I would definitely buy.
+1 for gore pack

[AzureWatcher]

Only if Vanu laser beams left holes in the bodies instead of causing blood to spray out.

That would be really cool.

[sumo]

no need. the only gore pack i ever used was in soldier of fortune, and i wasn't too old back then.

[Timealude]

I think it would be hard to get it rated as a T game with gore in it, and im sure thats what they are aiming for with this game.

[opticalshadow]

i dont think gore desenstizes people, i mean we had a dark ages, we had ww2, we have the news.

if people on this planet have not yet gotten use to death and gore by now, i doubt a video game is going to do us any worse.

[IHateMMOs]

No, comon, were not 11 year old Gears Of War junkies.

[Flaropri]

Originally Posted by opticalshadow

i dont think gore desenstizes people, i mean we had a dark ages, we had ww2, we have the news.

Yes, because the people that went through the Dark Ages are still alive. Even the WW2 generation (especially the people involved in combat) is dying out.

A person's sensitivity to violence, a person's apathy towards it, is individual not genetic. Even if you talk to someone who's seen real violence, it isn't the same as seeing it for yourself. I mean, sure, if we were all the same people with all the same memories, sure, that would make sense but...



Video games and graphic news do desensitize people. Much like the presence of nude sunbathing can and does desensitize people to the naked bosom in those nations and cultures that embrace it. If you constantly hear about something or witness something you are less likely to be shocked by it.

I'm not saying people don't know the difference between games and reality. However, this thread is in and of itself a great example.

In this thread, people are asking to spend money to see blood and gore, and not to promote realism or increase immersion.

Think about that for a moment. Unless you're a psychopath, actual blood and gore is not attractive. People's intestines strewn about the ground is not pretty. At least not to me and most others. So why is it that people would want to see it in a game?

People are desensitized to it, even to the point asking for over-the-top gore and blood to get a "satisfying feeling." Because apparently shooting them until they fall over just isn't satisfying. It isn't special.



All that said, I am not against it... I would never waste perfectly good money on gratuitous gore, but I do believe that if people really want to fund it, that's there's choice... however sad it makes me that people would make that decision.

[Justaman]

Originally Posted by Gugabalog

I don't want to attack people for holding their opinions about gore, but for the sake of the financial sustainability of the game I say by all means include this as a purchasable.

But only after other things that are in demand are completed I.E. E/E animations.

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I agree.

[Tsunami]

lol cert into the gore tree to unlock more gruesome gore....