I so fed up with all the VS QQing that they need a buff.

[OnexBigxHebrew]

Buff happened. VS is great.

OP IS LATE

[Gortha]

The reason for the picture the OP has posted, is that overall the Vanu Players are better than NC or TR Players.

So it is you losing, even against our mediocre weapons.

The NC LMG and TR LMG is way better than the VS LMG of the HA.
I tested it.

[Hosp]

At range, you are correct. Up close, the VS LMG > NC/TR due to no damage drop + no recoil.

[Sunrock]

Originally Posted by Hosp

At range, you are correct. Up close, the VS LMG > NC/TR due to no damage drop + no recoil.

Yes if the target is closer then 50 meters VS have the upper hand. And TBH most infantry Vs infantry battles in game happens around 50 meters or closer. Or what ever measurement unit the distance meter (alt +t defult key setting) have.

[Chowley]

Originally Posted by Sunrock

Ok when this had happen at 7pm CEST on EU 1 we have had tried to fight VS for an hour to take and secure Paris but even if we fielded more infantry and the same amount of tanks we had no chance against there magriders and shythe. They just shred us to peaces as they always try to come in and fight in close quarters.

Maybe if they bather to fix the recoil on the skyguard... But as VS never try to engage anyone at long range TR have a real problem dealing with them.

Maybe its just that TR sucks so really bad on EU 01 witch I start to believe.

Who else think its retarded of the VS to demand damage buffs all over the place?

I completely agree with you.
Im on EU1 as well, their weapons seem to be more powerful than TR or NC. Mag Rider is just crazy hard to hit. Tank shells go under it for the love of god. Scythe is impossible to get away from or catch. But whatever, Im just putting out my opinion, due all the whiney VS asking for buffs.
Oh and the snipers, numerous times in the last few days, I have come across VS who know how to use auto snipers, and jesus they are deadly. Although I will concede that a lower zoom scope would be good for them and allow them to fulfil a better role if they want it.

Anyway they have been pretty much dominating the whole map for the last week, considering they often have a lot less pop than TR and a couple of percent less than NC why do they need buffs. I have a VS character and I have loved their weapons/vehicles since tech test. Never understood the complaints.

Also I dont want them nerfed. I hate nerfing, especially the odd balancing SOE has. Nerf the life out of something, buff it to godlike status, continue. Either leave everything as is or make minor tweaks, and sit on it, then react.

[Crator]

Already? We haven't even gotten the HA weapons yet!

[Chowley]

I will agree there are some very good outfits on EU1 VS side. Had some great fights against organised platoons lately. There was one today in Ceres I think, my outfit were defending, they kept streaming down the hill at us, very organised. It was a major struggle. Brilliant fun though, im loving the outpost fights more and more. Same happened at TI alloys yesterday and at the Stronghold about 3am a few days ago.

And to the people saying the VS dont push NC, Do ye actually look at the map? They are camped in/around Mao for the last week.

[cBselfmonkey]

Originally Posted by Gortha

The reason for the picture the OP has posted, is that overall the Vanu Players are better than NC or TR Players.

So it is you losing, even against our mediocre weapons.

The NC LMG and TR LMG is way better than the VS LMG of the HA.
I tested it.

Is that supposed to be the con for when Vanu HA gets the Lasher?

[Sunrock]

Originally Posted by Miir

Dev's have all the hard weapon data. Hopefully they use that instead of listening to nerf/buff posts.

My experience with SOE after played EQ, SWG, EQ2, Vanguard and Pirates of the Burning Sea. Is that they ignore hard data and only listen to the nerf/buff QQ threads.

Originally Posted by Chowley

Also I dont want them nerfed. I hate nerfing, especially the odd balancing SOE has. Nerf the life out of something, buff it to godlike status, continue. Either leave everything as is or make minor tweaks, and sit on it, then react.

I agree SOE track record with there nerf - boff - nerf again and then buff it up roller coater is really bad. I hope this time they have learned there lesson... However I hardly think so.

[Roidster]

Originally Posted by Hamma

This will be a constant issue throughout beta and release even if there is nothing wrong. People always think certain weapons or factions are under/overpowered. Usually people think they are underpowered and the enemy is overpowered..

like Hamma said

go play the other factions,and see what their guns are like,to me the VS sniper rifle is just like the TR one,only better at close quarters

learn to aim,and dont spaz out on your mouse when you shoot

[Grendel]

If the shoe were on the other foot, and the NC had the VS sniper rifle, and VS had the bolt driver, oh my god. The crying would rise to the high heavens, and people who don't even play planetside would wonder what was going on.

It's always funny that it's the NC saying "stop crying, it's okay" when they frequently have 40+ percent of the population on every server, and their equipment is oftentimes clearly superior to both of the other teams, justified by "that's their empire thing."

[Maarvy]

Is this thread just people who's faction is getting bent over on there particular server ? .

It certainly seems that way .