I want to hear from non PS1 players what do you think of PS2

[Fear The Amish]

lol i know this isn't a recruitment thread but for you new people anyone looking for an outfit check out either the recruitment forums here or on the official ones. There are ALOT of good outfits out there and most will gladly teach you the ropes because the vast majority of players coming into this game will be new. Personally Xen of Onslaught is a Vanu outfit based out of East NA and i personally promise if you are a new player we will offer you a fun time and a great learning experience. I have to say the difference between playing solo and running with an outfit is like the difference between night and day. Both are fun but they are fun in different ways personally i like outfits because they offer a chance for MASSIVE battles almost constantly.

[Dagron]

Shamelessly recruiting more mindslaves, alien scum? Looking forward to liberating the world of your overlords! You can thank us once Auraxis is ours and your minds clear.

[Qwan]

Originally Posted by VaderShake

I hope so Qwan, I do know that a ton of Battlefield vets dropped BF3 like a hot rock and won't go back. There are about a dozen of them I regularly played with who are currently in the PS2 beta and looking forward to years of gameplay in PS2.

We still play BF3 quite a bit in my gaming community, not all of us have keys just yet. We mostly play on thursday and small sessions during the weekend.

I would just like to reiterate to some of the new guys check out an outfit, there really not hard to find and its a totally different way of playing the game. I think this way will give alot of gamers a clearer veiw of what PS is about. Hopefully hamma will leave this thread open and I enjoy reading what alot of the new guys think of the game so far, so please feel free to post your likes and dislikes so far. Thanks guys

[LastManStanding]

Well I never played PS1 and up until a year ago I hadn't even really dabbled much with multiplayer games (I was more into offline open-world games like Stalker, Oblivion and Fallout 3).

As soon as I saw PS2 though I knew this was something that was going to appeal to me and I was lucky enough to get into the beta fairly early on so I've been playing since late August / early September.

I've played it a lot and have definitely been enjoying it and am impressed with what the developers have been able to achieve. At the same time I'm not completely obsessed with it like I thought I would be.

I think the reasons for that are partly down to the fact that the tug-of-war battle for territory isn't as meaningful as I had imagined it would be. Territory changes hands too quickly so there's rarely a real sense of accomplishment when you claim it.

At the same time it's also no fun at all to sit around at a largely uncontested base for long periods of time waiting to capture it. That's one of my biggest complaints right now.

I've read some people talking about possible capture the flag mechanics being added in for some bases, and I think that could work well. I also like the look of the new base layouts for the Amerish map and I'm curious to see how the metagame aspects work when they are introduced (having not played PS1 I don't have a clear sense for whether this will be meaningful for me or not).

Overall I certainly see myself playing PS2 for a long period of time, but whether it's going to be the kind of game that will completely absorb me or just be something that I dabble with when the mood takes me remains to be seen.

[psijaka]

Finally getting around to posting my thoughts on PS2. My experience of PS1 was limited to watching a few clips on Youtube; enough to make me apply for the PS2 Beta. I've been playing fairly intensively for several weeks now, well worth the 10 month wait for an invite.

LIKES

- Epic scale of the game. 7km square maps! Compare that to your typical COD map.

- Truely MMO. No more 5v5 TDM for me. Some of the bigger encounters are foxtrotting awesome!

- Continuous warfare. Have played for up to 6 hours in one session (to 0430 am); a great sense of continuity. Makes your average COD or BF match look like child's play; utterly irrelevant.

- Sense of loyalty to your Empire. I fully intended to give all 3 an equal try, but somehow I feel like a traitor if I'm fighting against the NC. I love the feeling of being part of something bigger.

- Indar scenery. Spectacular yet somehow perfectly believable.

- Classes seem to fit well together, and each has it's place, even the support classes. I've enjoyed playing all of them, as circumstances dictate.

- Hex system on Indar. Like the complexity of this, and think that there is a lot of potential for a well organised squad to play strategically.

- Recoil. At last, an FPS that has got this right! The recoil is significant, but it has a predictable upwards trend, allowing a good player to compensate. Much better than random spread (BF, Firefall) or laser like accuracy (COD Black Ops Skorpion).

- Sniping. I'm not a habitual sniper, usually preferring to hunt them down, but I have enjoyed sniping in PS2. Just the right amount of sway and bullet drop to make it a challenge at long range.

- Variety of Base types to capture. From single point outposts up to major bases with several control points; shield generators etc. Calls for a variety of tactics. A bit too much duplication of each type though.

- Lot's more to come! Amerish just around the corner, and I'm sure that we'll see a lot more content in due course.

- And of course, it really does appear to be Free 2 Play!

DISLIKES

- Esamir. Dreary scenery fit only for tanks. Too few bases; hex system very much a dumbed down version of that on Indar.

- Resource system a bit broken. Most players look at the map and just go where the action is, without thought of resource generation. A few will think more strategically; I'm more interested in capturing territory with a strategic position, rather than considering the resource gain.

- Tanks are too all powerful. No fun at all being on the receiving end as infantry. Perhaps a longer respawn timer needed.

- Emphasis on K/D. WTF? I thought that this was an objective based team game. K/D is just so COD. Score per minute should be the primary measure of performance, for those that actually care.

- UI a bit crude; especially when it comes to spending certs. Some kind of interactive tree diagram would be an improvement; even Battlefield Play4Free had a better UI for unlocks.

[fishywishy]

I love everything except i often have no idea what im supposed to do for capping. I play infil most of the time and dont feel overwhelmed by the vehicles. Joined my 1st squad last night and had a blast. I need to find a noob friendly outfit now

[WaryWizard]

Originally Posted by psijaka

7km square maps!

64sqkm actually. Don't hate me.

I never played Planetside 1, and I never played too many FPS games in general. I played COD when it was still a WW2 game on Xbox, and I also played Halo a lot, but only really in single player. The first multiplayer FPS I played was COD4, and I didn't really like it much. After that I mainly played Halo and a couple random FPSs. Most of my gaming experience has been in 4x games(even though I suck) and RPG games. I also played quite a few RTSs. I found out about Planetside(probably within a year of release) when I visited my cousin's house, and I would watch him play it. I probably would've played it, if I had a computer that could play games. After that, I didn't really hear much about the game. Last December, I was looking for the game me and my friend could play. I searched around for the name of the game my cousin played, and discovered that PS2 was coming out. I then signed up for Beta, and made an account on here. I am very interested in this game, because of the potential I see. It is missing a few things, but beta is beta and unfinished.
Once they add a good enough reason for the fighting(owning Base A makes Tanks cheaper), or making resources useful(I liked it more when they had names) it will have more purpose.I bought alpha squad(for the SC and guns of course), and the game could do with some newb support. I knew the basics from checking this forum out, but it still took me over a week to figure out the chat commands. Then again I didn't really neeed to use much other than /tell. I've been zerging around mostly,but think I'll try teaming up more often. Not sure what else I could say other than Do better than you are currently doing, and try not to screw it up. Good jorb so far though.

[KALUHS]

As a TRIBES vet, I know how u guys feel comparing ps1 to ps2, sadly Hi-Rez has murdered my favorite game of all time with TRIBES Ascend. They ignored all the vets and milked the name, long story short ModernsTribesField:4

PS2 on the other hand is not losing 95% of its content unlike other prequels. SOE seems to be doing a good job with the constant updates, very quick reaction to certain issues compared to other companies. Im use to waiting months for a patch or update. They also seem to be in touch with alot of the community which is a good thing and hope it stays that way.

As for the gameplay
-im not happy with air atm, AA is just brutal! (constantly bitchin about this)
-Being a TRIBES vet, u can assume my favorite class is the assault for the jetpacks (if LA could skii, i'd jizz)
-there doesn't seem to be any strong objective for controlling any bases besides for the resources. It seems like Certs>Resources and so i just spend my time attacking the crown for mass kill/EXP
-the c4 bug is pissing me the f off constantly
-cert tree needs work
-optimization needs work
-voice chat needs work, mostly every1 sounds like shit
-so far so good, its in beta and showing good progress.

some things i like to see
-Squad members waypoints, id like to know where every member of my squad is located at all time
-jet like aircraft (all aircraft seem to work like helicopters)

[Kaldamar]

Originally Posted by Qwan

I would just like to reiterate to some of the new guys check out an outfit, there really not hard to find and its a totally different way of playing the game. I think this way will give alot of gamers a clearer veiw of what PS is about. Hopefully hamma will leave this thread open and I enjoy reading what alot of the new guys think of the game so far, so please feel free to post your likes and dislikes so far. Thanks guys

To be honest, I'd be hard pressed to really want to get an Outfit right now. I'm getting a lot out of roving around on my own and joining battles where I find them. Not to mention, I've already got to see the bias a few times of PS1 players basically scoffing at those who are not 'vets' or, if you look around at a few of the forums, this cloud of bitterness that appears to surround a lot of the PS2 stuff ("Why isn't this like PS1? It was good enough that way!"). Those who hate everything that PS2 is doing, the elitists who think free to play stuff always fail or the ones who seemingly WANT the next game to fail completely all tend to offer a pretty negative aspect. Maybe once the game launches, those people will crawl back into their holes, but it's definitely turning into a 'Con' for me going deeper into the play.

[Qwan]

Originally Posted by Kaldamar

To be honest, I'd be hard pressed to really want to get an Outfit right now. I'm getting a lot out of roving around on my own and joining battles where I find them. Not to mention, I've already got to see the bias a few times of PS1 players basically scoffing at those who are not 'vets' or, if you look around at a few of the forums, this cloud of bitterness that appears to surround a lot of the PS2 stuff ("Why isn't this like PS1? It was good enough that way!"). Those who hate everything that PS2 is doing, the elitists who think free to play stuff always fail or the ones who seemingly WANT the next game to fail completely all tend to offer a pretty negative aspect. Maybe once the game launches, those people will crawl back into their holes, but it's definitely turning into a 'Con' for me going deeper into the play.

Well if roving on your own is giving you what you want then by all means keep it up. Im just suggesting to some of the new guys, that if they join an outfit they will have just as much fun, and maybe even more fun then just roaming around solo.

Vets arent scofing at anyone, yes there are some things from PS1 they would like to see emplimented in PS2, but believe me they dont want to see it fail. I tell you right now well do what we always do adapt and overcome. As a PS1 vet myself it started out as a buggy, crashy, laggy beast, but over the years gamers learned to work with that and make the game still playable. But this thread aint about that its about new comers and what they like and dont like. Soooo what is your take on PS2.

[Crator]

Originally Posted by Kaldamar

the ones who seemingly WANT the next game to fail completely all tend to offer a pretty negative aspect.

I do not think any PS1 vet that is actively discussing things on the forums WANTS PS2 to fail. That's silly. If that were the case they would just not talk on the forums at all. Really wish you non-PS1 vets would stop assuming things you know nothing about. Ask questions, we like to talk about it, but don't assume.

[Kaldamar]

Originally Posted by Qwan

Vets arent scofing at anyone, yes there are some things from PS1 they would like to see emplimented in PS2, but believe me they dont want to see it fail. I tell you right now well do what we always do adapt and overcome. As a PS1 vet myself it started out as a buggy, crashy, laggy beast, but over the years gamers learned to work with that and make the game still playable. But this thread aint about that its about new comers and what they like and dont like. Soooo what is your take on PS2.

I actually did post already. *chuckles* Last post of the second page. I actually really like it and feel like I want to keep playing. But my post goes into better detail.

Originally Posted by Crator

I do not think any PS1 vet that is actively discussing things on the forums WANTS PS2 to fail. That's silly. If that were the case they would just not talk on the forums at all. Really wish you non-PS1 vets would stop assuming things you know nothing about. Ask questions, we like to talk about it, but don't assume.

Sorry, by that part I wasn't actually referring specifically to the PS1 players. More just to people who are insanely negative and how often they crop up in places like the official forums. Most seem to be pretty nice people and that's great. A little exhausted today and could have been much clearer. Not attempting to attack anyone at all.

[Crator]

Originally Posted by Kaldamar

Sorry, by that part I wasn't actually referring specifically to the PS1 players. More just to people who are insanely negative and how often they crop up in places like the official forums. Most seem to be pretty nice people and that's great. A little exhausted today and could have been much clearer. Not attempting to attack anyone at all.

Whoever it may be, if they can't discuss things with reason and constructive thoughts then just ignore them.

[VaderShake]

Originally Posted by Kaldamar

I've already got to see the bias a few times of PS1 players basically scoffing at those who are not 'vets' or, if you look around at a few of the forums, this cloud of bitterness that appears to surround a lot of the PS2 stuff ("Why isn't this like PS1? It was good enough that way!"). Those who hate everything that PS2 is doing, the elitists who think free to play stuff always fail or the ones who seemingly WANT the next game to fail completely all tend to offer a pretty negative aspect. Maybe once the game launches, those people will crawl back into their holes, but it's definitely turning into a 'Con' for me going deeper into the play.

Kaldamar, brings up a good point for the vets regarding "new" PS players. I would only caution the PS1 vets that lumping players into a category because they played COD or BF is a slippery slope. For some of us it's not our first rodeo and "we get it" right out of the box but we are not going to limit ourselves to tactics we never used or tried in PS1 simply because we never played it.

I saw this happen with the Project Reality mod for BF2, the dedicated PR guys would actually run people out of there game for not "playing the right way" even though there was nothing noticably negative about the results of how people were playing, in fact the more aggressive less tactical players would push the line hard and force the tactical guys back, which they did not like because they would have to try something else which made them uncomforatable instead of moving like molasses and over thinking the battle. Don't get me wrong tactics are great,teamwork is awesome, but sometimes someone just needs to charge the machine gun nest hard.

I think PS2 is so unique because of the size and the shear numbers in the fight that there is room for both type of players and everyone in between. I think the COD, BF, and other FPS players that come in will find they are ok on there own but once they experience a few massive battles with team work going on they will realize there is a healthy balance in there somewhere and most likely gravitate to the teamwork because there is nothing better than a group of people achieving something together and nothing more comforting than knowing you did not fail alone.

[Qwan]

Originally Posted by VaderShake

Kaldamar, brings up a good point for the vets regarding "new" PS players. I would only caution the PS1 vets that lumping players into a category because they played COD or BF is a slippery slope. For some of us it's not our first rodeo and "we get it" right out of the box but we are not going to limit ourselves to tactics we never used or tried in PS1 simply because we never played it.

I saw this happen with the Project Reality mod for BF2, the dedicated PR guys would actually run people out of there game for not "playing the right way" even though there was nothing noticably negative about the results of how people were playing, in fact the more aggressive less tactical players would push the line hard and force the tactical guys back, which they did not like because they would have to try something else which made them uncomforatable instead of moving like molasses and over thinking the battle. Don't get me wrong tactics are great,teamwork is awesome, but sometimes someone just needs to charge the machine gun nest hard.

I think PS2 is so unique because of the size and the shear numbers in the fight that there is room for both type of players and everyone in between. I think the COD, BF, and other FPS players that come in will find they are ok on there own but once they experience a few massive battles with team work going on they will realize there is a healthy balance in there somewhere and most likely gravitate to the teamwork because there is nothing better than a group of people achieving something together and nothing more comforting than knowing you did not fail alone.

Well im just going to put this out there shake man, M.A.P. is recruiting, and so are alot of good outfits out there in all three factions. I have to say personally I havent seen anyone treating BF or CoD players like second class citizens. So far we have recruited about 8 or 9 new guys who never played PS1 and they log in quite often looking to run missions and have a good time. Now I have noticed that gamers who join squads play with a solo mentallity, not listening to the squad leader and not moving with the squad (these are mostly random squads). And they get dropped from the squad, this solo activity while in a squad is a BF/CoD mentallity, it just wont work in a squad in PS, I would suggest they stay solo if there going to do that. In random squads in PS2 if your going to join a squad dont be on the other side of the map fighting, you should at least be in the general area. Also here's a suggestion look at the make up of your squad, if it needs more medic's or engineers, or heavy's, then consider switching over. Just for some of the new guys if your going to join a squad with an active squad leader your gonna have to follow instructions.