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Old 2013-01-04, 12:38 PM   [Ignore Me] #31
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Originally Posted by NewSith View Post
And once again, I said it - freeform inventory OR freeform classes.
Well, technically you used a "/" which could be interpreted as something other than an "or". I guess just take my post as a general thing, since that stuff is always in my mind when classes come up (they, as a concept, always take a beating). I wasn't trying to pick on you specifically.

Just to clarify what I mean by "freeform classes", take Infiltrator as example:

Potential for specialization, on exmple of Infiltrator Class:

*Stuff*

There you have it, it is not a freeform inventory system, at all. But it is pretty much a freeform class, because it allows crapload of options.
Yeah, that's pretty nifty stuff. I really hope they add all that sort of thing. Particularly this stood out to me, because it was exactly what I was thinking about when I was making my post:

Standard Armor - No cloak, allows the use of Carbines (or SMGs if we still want to limit them).
I'd also include shotguns in that. After all, it wasn't shotguns themselves that make infils OP in beta, it was the combo of shotguns + cloak. Plus they're already more flimsy than everyone else, so giving them better weapons at the cost of the cloak isn't going to make them CQC battlehouses.
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Old 2013-01-04, 05:56 PM   [Ignore Me] #32
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Originally Posted by Figment View Post
So bassically since you were wrong by default, didn't even read the actual points made you just decided to not just not read the argumentation (ha having three weapons on them by default), but to also declare any disagreement crap, thus ending debate with a random insult?

...stuff i didnt bother reading
No I was right but since you repeatedly engage in bad faith arguments Im no going to bother with details for you

You are wrong over all and dishonest frequently. Im not going to bother sorting what you say to separate the arguable points from the dishobesty - its not fair to me to have to do that.

Just go away or at least dont talk to me. Ive called you on bad faith arguments before and you persist - you are a bad and dishonest person(or at least your forum persona is.)
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Old 2013-01-04, 07:43 PM   [Ignore Me] #33
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You and your "dishonest" crap. Admit you just aren't mature enough to debate.

All you do is insult and whine that someone else is wrong, without having even the courtesy to read and then retort argumentation. Grow some balls and debate.

If you think I'm being dishonest, point out the flaw in the argument instead of throwing a childish tantrum.

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Old 2013-01-10, 06:51 PM   [Ignore Me] #34
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One thing to add to what PS2 could easily have that PS1 did right: auto walk
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Old 2013-01-11, 02:50 AM   [Ignore Me] #35
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If I understand the op right:

Limited Certification Points.
There are amny people claiming that many things can be balanced by increasing certcosts. You can't do that if your CP income is infinite. Limit the amount of CPs you can get per BattleRank and there you have a wonderful balancing factor.
I would disagree here. At least not until there is an option to regain and respent certs.
It's currently way too easy to make a purchase you later regret and also there is just a shitload of stuff to get and prices aren't balanced (some sidegrades 4x the price of others etc)
If you cap it so that a BR40 can get everything, well then the whole capping of certs is pointless.
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Old 2013-01-11, 04:10 AM   [Ignore Me] #36
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Newt: that you could reset would come naturally.

The only thing to look at would be station cash purchases.



An alternative you could do is overlay the current system with a certsystem skin to ps1 based on battle ranks, while you research equipment based on earned certpoints: you unlock groups of weapons as a class, in which you can only use those items you spent your certpoints on. The remainder of certs would be used to research things you can't quite use.

Could call those battle rank acquired points: equipment points, or if you want players to make choices between specific options, you could even call them suit points, vehicle points, weapon class points, etc.

Once you have that, you could also re-evaluate class customization in terms of weapons. Engineer or medic with AV or carbine or lmg shouldn't be an issue. Nor should a HA with shotgun and rifle (opposed to AV).

But people will find a bullcrap reason to call that op and happily fire their high rof he rounds in the meantime..

(I find it really ironic that the only thing people thought were sometimes silly to combine was ps1 medic and engi (which wasn't even op if you didn't lemming into their optimum range and simply beat them by getting and keeping them in your own optimal range or working together), resulting in the combination banning of pretty much every combination of weapons vs support abilities for grunt classes). I'm still rather annoyed with that and I personally never even certed medic in ps1 and only got about 150 kills with HA out of 60K kills or so.

People just wern't that bright to deal with it or too stupid to ring EMP grenades to disable pshield and check if there was someone there. (Always fun to blow a boomer they were just placing too).
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