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Old 2003-07-25, 06:36 AM   [Ignore Me] #46
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The XP system.

This needs both a much higher reward for actually contributing (machinery repairs - should be limited to cbt eng, corpse revivals and above all killing stuff), and defense. Not to mention both individual skill, and achievements by a particular unit. Anyone else getting tired of seeing something like "w00t, a 5k cap " from people who have done naff all but follow the herd and mill about aimlessly ?

That fits in with the platoon thing. If XP is still going to be dished out in such huge chunks for base caps after the "CTF" changes, you need a unit organisation big enough to conduct a cap against significant opposition by itself, so the reward is (primarily) to that one platoon/outfit/whatever.
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Old 2003-07-25, 09:15 AM   [Ignore Me] #47
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"it's official. Navaron, i have not read a single post of yours that has not made you seem like a very bitter old man who spits at children that walk by his house."

Here, I'll try the coping methods fanbois use. OMG YOU DON'T like it? Leave don't let the door hit you on the way out! Wank wank wank. I don't give a shit if you like me or not, this isn't the miss America contest.


"the worst thing they did was make more promises than they could keep. no, not WOULD keep. COULD."

Sounds like you both admit that intentional deception "is part of MMO's" and we should just grab out ankles and be happy about it.

"believe it or not, they DO work on the game, and it's NOT easy to program things. "

No shit? I thought it was like playing pong all day.

"i'm quite happy paying $26 for the liberator, the skyguard, orbital strikes, fixed bugs, vehicle changes, medic love, lasher love (although it's a tough love), EMP blasts, new chat colors...."

Good for you. Are you happy with all the bugs they reintroduced? Are you happy with all the feedback they just ignored on the test forum? Although, I gotta say, those chat colors are killer.

"A MASSIVELY MULTIPLAYER ONLINE FIRST-PERSON SHOOTER with dozens of certifications, weapons, vehicles, and thousands of real people to play with."

You say thousands as in plural. Enjoy it while it lasts.

"New content doesn't make old content obsolete. "

Who said that?

"if you hate everything THAT MUCH, just stop."

If you'd actually read anything I wrote you'd know I love this game and have probably put in more time on the test server than 99% of the people here.

"you've certainly made my forum visit an unhappy one, and i'm sure you're not dancing the night away over there."

Who are you again? I'm sorry my posts don't fly with your blindfaith fanboy jingoism.



Simple fact is, that prebeta, all through beta, and up until last month I was this games biggest fan. I've put in as much time on the test server as anyone here. I've submitted as many ideas as I can think of.

Am I angry that these guys seem to not listen to the community, goof off when *they* are on the test server, send patches live when they know they aren't ready, intentionally deceive customers on new content updates, implement new abstract ideas as bandaids instead of implementing the ideas the community likes, reintroduce the same bugs every patch, and all in all seem to have lost the vision they had for the game just 6 weeks ago? Yes I am.

So does that mean I should just puss out and leave? Screw that. I love this game and I worked through beta and work on the test server to make it better. If everyone who isn't happy with the game's direction leaves without fighting for their ideas, then you'll have about 400 fanbois fighting each other and a lot of nuetral bases.

Simple fact is, if you don't like my criticism of the game, don't read it. There's an ignore button. My points aren't trivial or refutable. If you don't like it, it's not my problem.

This game does not need a bunch of lemming fanboys who won't speak up about anything, it needs harsh critics who will give the game the tough love it needs.

How much time have *you* guys spent on the test server?
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Old 2003-07-25, 10:43 AM   [Ignore Me] #48
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I'd hardly say I'm a fan-boy (P.S. fanboi isn't a word, genius). I can't even play the game it's so buggy right now but since I'm paying about $9.99 for the game I'm willing to keep my account active until things get fixed. Let me say this again since you seem kind of dense: I'm not a huge fan of PS right now.

The difference is I have 3 years experience dealing with MMOs so I know what to expect and know that bitching, and on a fansite I might add, will do absolutely nothing. If you want to at least try to make a difference you could go rant about the game wth the rest of the fools on the official forums, but I have a feeling that probably won't happen.

Planetside needs tough critics, you're right. But they need tough critics that are level headed and experienced in dealing with MMOs. You, apparently, are neither.

By the way suggesting if you seem to not like the game, don't like the Devs, feel you're being ripped off etc, that you can always cancel is common fucking sense, something you seem to be lacking. Now do you want to play some more, Nav? Because this is actually kind of fun
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Old 2003-07-25, 11:05 AM   [Ignore Me] #49
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"I'd hardly say I'm a fan-boy (P.S. fanboi isn't a word, genius). "

Fanboi is a joke. Dick .

"Let me say this again since you seem kind of dense: I'm not a huge fan of PS right now. "

Let me say this again since you seem pretty dense yourself, I am a huge fan of PS.


"and on a fansite I might add"

A) I've seen the devs on here before
B) It's good to present the opposite opinion because it stimulates thought, which PSU has always been good for
C) I do post on the OF with the rest of the "idiots" which include hamma, headrattle and many others.

"But they need tough critics that are level headed and experienced in dealing with MMOs. You, apparently, are neither."

You can be level headed and passionate. All of my points are grounded in fact. You'll never hear me say, "OMG wtf this game sux the dev's suck, monkey's could do better".

"By the way suggesting if you seem to not like the game, don't like the Devs, feel you're being ripped off etc"

Reading comprehension's not your forte' is it?
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Old 2003-07-25, 12:14 PM   [Ignore Me] #50
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Fanboi is a joke. Dick .
Humor is not really your forte', is it? That's almost as good as n00bhammer OFMGLOLZ!!!11!!..../sigh

Let me say this again since you seem pretty dense yourself, I am a huge fan of PS.
Your writing skills sems to be lacking. You seem to express youself in the exact opposite of how you feel.

A) I've seen the devs on here before
So have I, very very rarely. Admit it, you looking for an argument.

B) It's good to present the opposite opinion because it stimulates thought, which PSU has always been good for
Well I'll be damned, you did. Touche', and really I'm kinda glad there are people like you here. Would get kinda boring otherwise
C) I do post on the OF with the rest of the "idiots" which include hamma, headrattle and many others.
Did you have a point in throwing Hamma's name out there? You are most definately not Hamma. I know he posts there. Does he bitch about the Devs incessantly though? Didn't think so.

You can be level headed and passionate. All of my points are grounded in fact. You'll never hear me say, "OMG wtf this game sux the dev's suck, monkey's could do better".
Eh, so are mine. Thing is we aren't arguing facts, we're arguing opinions of those facts . You're miffed that the Devs are breaking promises, I'm indifferent to it because I expect it.

"By the way suggesting if you seem to not like the game, don't like the Devs, feel you're being ripped off etc"

Reading comprehension's not your forte' is it?
Again, work on your writing skills. Stop making it look like you don't like the Devs and feel you're being ripped off and people who don't know you will probably stop thinking you feel that way You've implied you don't feel you're getting enough for your cash per month, and you sure as hell have ripped on the Devs (which incidentally is the best way I know to get someone to listen to you ).

Keep em comin, Nav. Maybe today won't drag by too bad if I get to argue with you all day
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Old 2003-07-25, 01:31 PM   [Ignore Me] #51
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Hope you guys are happy ruling the thred with your own private flame war. yeesh.

And now for something completely different...:
http://gamefiles.blueyonder.co.uk/bl...WARS.NERDS.wmv

go there, you might learn something. Or just laugh your heads off.
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Old 2003-07-25, 01:36 PM   [Ignore Me] #52
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Does the movie require sound to be amusing? If so I'm probbaly not going to get all that much enjoyment out of it (no sound cards in computers at work)
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Old 2003-07-25, 01:57 PM   [Ignore Me] #53
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Originally posted by Cauldron Borne
Hope you guys are happy ruling the thred with your own private flame war. yeesh.

And now for something completely different...:
http://gamefiles.blueyonder.co.uk/bl...WARS.NERDS.wmv

go there, you might learn something. Or just laugh your heads off.
It doesn't bother me Cauldron Borne. All I hear/read is...blah..blah...blah....name calling.....blah...blah...blah...
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Old 2003-07-25, 02:05 PM   [Ignore Me] #54
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Nav, do you know about the quote button?

Edit: Cauldron that's nothing go here, Linkage






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And if you back in 2003 decided you wanted to play RTS games, between then and now you'd have dozens of RTS games you could have played. If you decided to play MMOFPS' between then and now, there were none

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Old 2003-07-25, 02:12 PM   [Ignore Me] #55
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Originally posted by Lonehunter187
Nav, do you know about the quote button?
What are you talking about? You mean I've posted 5,000 times and there's a quote button? HFS.
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Old 2003-07-25, 02:34 PM   [Ignore Me] #56
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Old 2003-07-25, 02:41 PM   [Ignore Me] #57
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AH HA! I knew Nav was a n00b!
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Old 2003-07-25, 03:12 PM   [Ignore Me] #59
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Originally posted by Happy lil' Elf
AH HA! I knew Nav was a n00b!
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And if you back in 2003 decided you wanted to play RTS games, between then and now you'd have dozens of RTS games you could have played. If you decided to play MMOFPS' between then and now, there were none
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Old 2003-07-25, 04:05 PM   [Ignore Me] #60
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As if the huge sig that's bigger then 95% of the posts I've seen wasn't bad enough, now every thread is turning into a bitching rant. Would it be possible to create a "Complaints Forum" where useless ranting can be placed while thoughtful discussion can be promoted elsewhere?

Posting more then somebody else is like having a high BR... it doesn't mean you're better then them, just that you've had a lot more time on your hands. Just my two peso's worth...
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