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Old 2003-03-15, 11:08 AM   [Ignore Me] #46
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That they were not going to hit 1stQ 2003 should not be news to anyone.

Exclusive beta started Feb 22th

They have not reached the two exclusive beta milestones of

1) 1000 players on one continent (At 720 players now, they should reach this by next week)

2) 5000 - 10000 players on the server

They are going to have to notifiy all open beta players and distribute disks. (1-2 weeks)

Open beta is going to be at least 4 weeks.

There is only 9 weeks to May 19th.

The devs are already on a tight schedule. Give them a break.
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Old 2003-03-15, 12:04 PM   [Ignore Me] #47
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Originally posted by PR24
to hamma don't take what I say personal by anymeans just want people to realize that there is more then just one view on this issue.
First off i wasn't kissing ass, i was trying a thing called respect. When you make a 3-D game that will be played by thousands and thousands of people then you can go bitch at a dev team, till then you have no f**ing clue what they are doing.

Second you are indeed entitled to your opinion but your opinion shouldn't contain direct attacks to a guy you don't even know especially when you don't have all the info.
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Old 2003-03-15, 12:42 PM   [Ignore Me] #48
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Originally posted by PR24
Hamma thats good and all BUT the game took 3 years as is and he still can't come close to a release date. I am starting to understand why Sierra shit canned him. This waiting period would be easier if I was in the Beta like you are but I have nothing until this game is released now.
What makes you think <b>HE</b> sets the release date?

Case closed.

That is my problem here, personally attacking dave because of Tribes 2? Give me a break. He's been in this business and developed many successes before T2.

Accuse SOE, not dave.
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Old 2003-03-15, 12:48 PM   [Ignore Me] #49
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Originally posted by PR24
Hamma thats good and all BUT the game took 3 years as is and he still can't come close to a release date. I am starting to understand why Sierra shit canned him. This waiting period would be easier if I was in the Beta like you are but I have nothing until this game is released now.
So, you want him to promise a release date, on a game that is not ready for release, and have a T2 fiasco? Sierra is whom I personally hold responsible for pushing T2 out too early. Did you ever think Dave had no choice? If the publisher says "Release it on this day period" do you think the Dev team has a choice. Games that have been in developement for a long time, that have cost millions of dollars have been flat out cancelled. Sierra could have do just that if there was no release when they specified. Dave did not have a choice, and possibly one of the reasons he got shit canned was because he put up too much resistance with Sierra. Plus they canned Dynamix as well, not just Dave. They did keep some of the peeps from Dynamix, but there was not much left of DYnamix after they left to garage games and T2 was released....
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Old 2003-03-15, 01:25 PM   [Ignore Me] #50
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Originally posted by Hamma
What makes you think <b>HE</b> sets the release date?

Case closed.

That is my problem here, personally attacking dave because of Tribes 2? Give me a break. He's been in this business and developed many successes before T2.

Accuse SOE, not dave.
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Old 2003-03-15, 02:04 PM   [Ignore Me] #51
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Bah, I don't know who is responsible for the delay, but the situation sucks, that's what I think. If it's gonna take 2 months to fix the bugs, they better be some big-ass bugs.
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Old 2003-03-15, 02:05 PM   [Ignore Me] #52
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Lol! They miss the schedual by alittle over a month and you guys are ready to kill someone. Go look at how long some other games were pushed back. Hell SWG has been in beta for what? 4 months? Be glad the devs arnt just pushing it out without testing and tweaking. Do you want a budget lvl game or something youll happily spend months playing? Grow up people.


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Old 2003-03-15, 02:24 PM   [Ignore Me] #53
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Originally posted by UDT Snake
STFU. Just...stfu.

If you had any sort of concept about what went into creating an online game, maybe you can talk.
I already do. thx
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Old 2003-03-15, 02:30 PM   [Ignore Me] #54
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Originally posted by Hamma
What makes you think <b>HE</b> sets the release date?

Case closed.

That is my problem here, personally attacking dave because of Tribes 2? Give me a break. He's been in this business and developed many successes before T2.

Accuse SOE, not dave.
Thats a producers job Hamma. When he says we will be ready at "xyz" day the marketing dept and the "big wigs" get ready for the games release.

I understand there are ALWAYS delays in gamesbut most games do not take 3 years to develope then still have delays.

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Old 2003-03-15, 02:32 PM   [Ignore Me] #55
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Like I said before, to people. I in no means "think" I am flaming people but if you take it the wong way realize I mean no harm to anyone. I find this a good outlet for my frustrations , it will pass
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Old 2003-03-15, 06:27 PM   [Ignore Me] #56
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Originally posted by LNS0388
This makes me think they are setting a tentative, bare bones release date just so they can put a date out and accept pre-orders.
I wouldn't get too attached to that date. Trust noone. Except the devs. I don't think they have a line of communication going with SOE regarding a release date, probably just throwing out a date to they can take preorders.
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Old 2003-03-16, 08:37 PM   [Ignore Me] #57
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Originally posted by PR24
Thats a producers job Hamma. When he says we will be ready at "xyz" day the marketing dept and the "big wigs" get ready for the games release.
No, no...just no. Hes stated repeatidly that he isnt in control of any dates. He wasnt in charge of beta release. He couldnt even get permission to announce a date. Bigwigs tell him when to be ready and he pushes for that date.
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