T-Ray on Vehicle Animations issues

[Bags]

Originally Posted by DjEclipse

Almost everyone here hasn't played yet. I like LONGFELLA's post on the topic. He feels PS2 is too fast for the delay.

1.) 3 seconds isn't going to seriously slow the game down
2.) maybe the game shouldn't be so fast then?

[Kitsune]

Am kinda sad to hear there's no enter/exit aniamtions. Nothing but gravity is stopping people from jumping out of the aircraft if damaged now...

Oh well, thanks for the info.

[Bags]

Originally Posted by Kitsune

Am kinda sad to hear there's no enter/exit aniamtions. Nothing but gravity is stopping people from jumping out of the aircraft if damaged now...

Oh well, thanks for the info.

You could jump out of planes safely in PS1. Now you die unless you eject or are LA or are like an inch off the ground.

[Galzus]

Originally Posted by Hamma

So I really want vehicle animations.

But you are ignorant if you think it's simple..

It's simple, just takes time. All it takes is making a bit of interior in the vehicle, a moving door/hatch, and the animation sequence that plays on a character getting in.

Originally Posted by Erudite

Wow. BF series is not AAA... good to know...

The BF series is probably one of the worst shooter series I've ever played. But I don't want to argue about it because this isn't a BF forum.

[Zulthus]

Originally Posted by Galzus

It's simple, just takes time. All it takes is making a bit of interior in the vehicle, a moving door/hatch, and the animation sequence that plays on a character getting in.

How long would it take you to animate several doors on several vehicles? Do you have any examples that you worked on?

[Landtank]

Originally Posted by Galzus

It's simple, just takes time. All it takes is making a bit of interior in the vehicle, a moving door/hatch, and the animation sequence that plays on a character getting in.



The BF series is probably one of the worst shooter series I've ever played. But I don't want to argue about it because this isn't a BF forum.

An animation takes SO much time, you have no idea. There's a reason the Vanu max animations took until TotalBiscuits first videos to be completed.

You're right, its SOOO simple, go do it then.

And if you think the BF series is one of the worst series you've ever played, then you need to reevaluate what you consider a good shooter. BF1942, BF2142, BF2 even, were all awesome games, heck even BF1943 and that was an Xbox Arcade game.

[Redbeard]

Originally Posted by Zulthus

How long would it take you to animate several doors on several vehicles? Do you have any examples that you worked on?

I've did a little animation during university and I can tell you right now that animating something like a door opening or a hatch sliding out is quite simple, provided the mesh is already done; it would take mere minutes for an experienced animator. Creation of the character animation is a much more intricate job of course.

Regarding resourcing this, implementing this is almost entirely artist work, but my guess is that currently the art team is flat out making assets for the other continents, whereas the developers are busy ironing out bugs coming out of the tech test.

So, it's unlikely that we'll see this anytime soon, but the steps to make it come sooner are simple enough: Support the game (with dollars), and keep mentioning that we want these animations.

[Zulthus]

Originally Posted by Redbeard

I've did a little animation during university and I can tell you right now that animating something like a door opening or a hatch sliding out is quite simple, provided the mesh is already done; it would take mere minutes for an experienced animator. Creation of the character animation is a much more intricate job of course.

Regarding resourcing this, implementing this is almost entirely artist work, but my guess is that currently the art team is flat out making assets for the other continents, whereas the developers are busy ironing out bugs coming out of the tech test.

So, it's unlikely that we'll see this anytime soon, but the steps to make it come sooner are simple enough: Support the game (with dollars), and keep mentioning that we want these animations.

Yeah, didn't even mention animating the guy hopping in/out. SOE should just let some experienced people in the community do the animations for them, and implement them if they're good enough.

[Redbeard]

Originally Posted by Zulthus

Yeah, didn't even mention animating the guy hopping in/out. SOE should just let some experienced people in the community do the animations for them, and implement them if they're good enough.

I'd be very surprised if that ever happened.

Anyway, it's better to have SOE do it so T-Ray can oversee it and make sure it is stylistically and technically consistent. Can't have a mishmash of animation styles and implementations all throughout your project.

[GreatMazinkaise]

AAA isn't really a designation that indicates the quality of the end product; it's industry short-hand for a big budget overproduced game that can compete with movie blockbusters in terms of initial sales. You'll get glorious art and effects; gameplay and code, well, it's a crapshoot.

[Galzus]

Originally Posted by Zulthus

How long would it take you to animate several doors on several vehicles? Do you have any examples that you worked on?

Originally Posted by Landtank

An animation takes SO much time

I take it neither of you read my post whatsoever, because I clearly stated that I know it takes a lot of TIME, but the actual work is simple enough.

And if you think the BF series is one of the worst series you've ever played, then you need to reevaluate what you consider a good shooter. BF1942, BF2142, BF2 even, were all awesome games, heck even BF1943 and that was an Xbox Arcade game.

Sorry for having opinions. Slow pacing between shootouts, super quick TTKs, having to rely on idiots, and atrocious vehicle spawns isn't my idea of a fun time.

[Landtank]

Originally Posted by Galzus

I take it neither of you read my post whatsoever, because I clearly stated that I know it takes a lot of TIME, but the actual work is simple enough.



Sorry for having opinions. Slow pacing between shootouts, super quick TTKs, having to rely on idiots, and atrocious vehicle spawns isn't my idea of a fun time.

I have read your post, but must emphasis TIME once again. Did I mention it takes a lot of time? You did too, but it takes a lot of time to do something like that, hence why it isn't in the game. Time isn't exactly on the developers side, and for future patches I would prefer actual content over animations.

Sorry you can't play those games, all I was saying is that there are FAR worse shooters out there than the Battlefield series.

[Stardouser]

Originally Posted by Galzus

I take it neither of you read my post whatsoever, because I clearly stated that I know it takes a lot of TIME, but the actual work is simple enough.



Sorry for having opinions. Slow pacing between shootouts, super quick TTKs, having to rely on idiots, and atrocious vehicle spawns isn't my idea of a fun time.

Battlefield is slow pacing between shootouts and PS1 isn't? Just wow.

[Galzus]

Originally Posted by Stardouser

Battlefield is slow pacing between shootouts and PS1 isn't? Just wow.

Considering that PS1 is constant action and the BFs are "spawn, run a long distance because all the vehicles are occupied, shoot a couple people, die in two hits, repeat"

yes

[ChookWantan]

Originally Posted by galzus

considering that ps1 is constant action and the bfs are "spawn, run a long distance because all the vehicles are occupied, shoot a couple people, die in two hits, repeat"

yes

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