New Player Mentality

[Ratstomper]

Originally Posted by Rivenshield

My concerns are precisely the reverse. I think any RPG people who migrate over will tend towards the friendly pro-social teamwork side, and I hope the TR attract as many of them as possible.

There are no more ruthless win-at-all-costs narcissists and exploiters to be found than in the Cawadooty crowd.

Not to mention the borderline ADD mentality most FPS games ingrain in people....

"I'm in! Shoot people! Shoot that guy! *blamblamblam* Now shoot that guy! *blamblamblam* Lawl why is noone shooting back? *blamblamblam* Why is everyone dressed the same color? *blamblamblam* omg im the best at this game. lawl these guys are all nubs. *blamblamblamblam*"

[vVRedOctoberVv]

Today's a real winner for quality threads.

[TheDAWinz]

Originally Posted by vVRedOctoberVv

Today's a real winner for quality threads.

And Yesterday, i think instead of retarded thread day, its retarded thread WEEK.

[proxy]

Originally Posted by TheDAWinz

And Yesterday, i think instead of retarded thread day, its retarded thread WEEK.

People are rabid with sillygoosery.

[GhettoPrince]

Stupid isn't a mentality, but I do think they should bring back instant action and have it be a giant shiny red button on the UI when you first log into the game. That would PROBABLY make it idiot proof.

[moosepoop]

the new player is like a shy virgin. i will be gentle, and show them the way of the warrior.

[Emperor Newt]

Thats a problem with every game that tries to do things differently and relies on teamwork. Nothing exklusive to Planetside. And as with every such game it's for the community to try to reach out to players and to teach them how to play the game.
SOE can only give new players a rough idea on how to play the game, the "real thing" has to be learned by the interaction with other players. If those dont bring the calmness and manners to teach new players again and again then it will stop to grow at a certain point.
It may be painfull to explain some things for thousand times, but it's necessary.

Originally Posted by Rivenshield

And if Sony doesn't charge something for the client, I think a lot of us have the secret fear that we're going to be overrun with them.

From my experience this doesn't help. At all. CoD isn't free of "14 years olds" and WoW is neither. They are not because mommy and daddy will pay for everything little Timmy asks for.

[vVRedOctoberVv]

The instant action button was a good feature to have. Solved a lot of problems for folks, I'm sure.

[Tehroth]

I think the Developers should make all us Veterans, Vanu because we are the enlightened bunch. Everyone else is just insects that joined the bandwagon, and didn't put sweat, blood and tears like us grisly veterans did to make your lives and your clone's lives easier for you ps2 trendy wannabes.

I have battle scars, Battle scars! From my encounters from ps1. Kids these days have it easy, wish they could walk a mile without a Galaxy in my boots back in 03. I reckon this is how the Vets from Vietnam felt coming home after the war. A bunch of ungrateful hippies that did nothing to help and hurling insults at us. Well my friends we have seen a bloody conflict not many have seen. We have done many things not many have done.

All I am asking is a a one hit kill weapon, invincibility, a veteran uniform, no taxes for life, a free house, car and 1,000,000 dollars. Is that really that much to ask for??!

[Littleman]

Originally Posted by vVRedOctoberVv

The instant action button was a good feature to have. Solved a lot of problems for folks, I'm sure.

After a while. I remember early in the game's life it had the problem of constantly dumping me off in a 2v1 tower brawl, and those were the only 3 people on the continent until I arrived.

I wanted to go to the continent with 30 slots left...

[Kezz]

Originally Posted by Tehroth

I think the Developers should make all us Veterans, Vanu because we are the enlightened bunch. Everyone else is just insects that joined the bandwagon, and didn't put sweat, blood and tears like us grisly veterans did to make your lives and your clone's lives easier for you ps2 trendy wannabes.

I have battle scars, Battle scars! From my encounters from ps1. Kids these days have it easy, wish they could walk a mile without a Galaxy in my boots back in 03. I reckon this is how the Vets from Vietnam felt coming home after the war. A bunch of ungrateful hippies that did nothing to help and hurling insults at us. Well my friends we have seen a bloody conflict not many have seen. We have done many things not many have done.

All I am asking is a a one hit kill weapon, invincibility, a veteran uniform, no taxes for life, a free house, car and 1,000,000 dollars. Is that really that much to ask for??!

It is teh LOL

[Ratstomper]

Originally Posted by Tehroth

All I am asking is a a one hit kill weapon, invincibility, a veteran uniform, no taxes for life, a free house, car and 1,000,000 dollars. Is that really that much to ask for??!

Ok, we get it. Some of the vets are unreasonable. Can we stop kicking the dead joke horse?

[vVRedOctoberVv]

Originally Posted by Ratstomper

Ok, we get it. Some of the vets are unreasonable. Can we stop kicking the dead joke horse?

No! The horse isn't fully decomposed yet! We must keep bringing it up, until another wave of rage threads is birthed!

Seriously, though, back to the instant action. Yeah, it would ideally throw you somewhere "there must be (this) many players to qualify" so you don't wind up nowhere. But, tipping the tower fight 2v1 might be helpful in the grand scheme :P

[Ratstomper]

Originally Posted by vVRedOctoberVv

No! The horse isn't fully decomposed yet! We must keep bringing it up, until another wave of rage threads is birthed!

Seriously, though, back to the instant action. Yeah, it would ideally throw you somewhere "there must be (this) many players to qualify" so you don't wind up nowhere. But, tipping the tower fight 2v1 might be helpful in the grand scheme :P

I dunno. the only reason I used instant action in PS1 was because you had to either A) wait for the hart and go though a loading screen or B) pull a vehicle, go through loading screen and then make your way to the battle with your vehicle. I think that fact we have footholds on the continents and all vehicles certed automatically makes instant action kinda moot.

[RSphil]

Originally Posted by vVRedOctoberVv

Actually, that guy being referred to is less of a "new player" mentality, as much as it is a general purpose dipsh*t. He spent twenty minutes TKing and wandering aimlessly mostly from his own incompetence. It doesn't take more than a couple seconds to open the map, notice your guys are dressed in blue, this section of the map is blue, and over here is a red section of the map.


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Actually, you're probably right. This will be a common new player mentality. They have tutorials and welcome screens lined up already (which said guy clicked through). As the saying goes, you can't fix stupid. People who come in and start behaving erratically and doing weird stuff, it's not because of the community they're joining or the presence or absence of guides... It's just cause they're weird.

agree with you on that. some of vids that have been leaked so far have been idiots playing who dont seem to have the first clue what they are doing or even a clue what to do in tech/beta test. its a shame you cant vet the people you let into these things first so people who get in are actually helpfull.

im a new player to planetside 2 but an old player of MMO's and FPS's.
planetside is the sort of thing im gona love and really want to get into.

also done alot of beta testing and a few Alpha tests.

from what iv seen over the years you are right, you cant fix stupid lol.