I'll not be resubbing any time soon

[Varsam]

Originally Posted by Illtempered

Lol that's your idea of a tantrum? mkay

It's called criticism. Fanboys need not apply.

Really? Because...

Originally Posted by Illtempered

...and of course they never miss any opportunities to throw cheap crap in the overpriced SC store.

Originally Posted by Illtempered

But! We were lied to.

Originally Posted by Illtempered

I've been a loyal Planetside subscriber for over ten years! Do that math. I've put my money into the system, but I'll not be putting anymore in until I see some major changes on SOE's end. In the meantime I'll play for free and not hold my breath.

...that looks like a whole lot of unnecessary bitching to me. Criticism is constructive, what you're doing is ranting. If you're going to unsub, do it. Don't be a drama queen about it and announce it to the world as if it matters to anyone but you.

[ShadoViper]

Originally Posted by Varsam

Really? Because...



...that looks like a whole lot of unnecessary bitching to me. Criticism is constructive, what you're doing is ranting. If you're going to unsub, do it. Don't be a drama queen about it and announce it to the world as if it matters to anyone but you.

Well... this is rather ironic.

[Meatball Mobeus]

Originally Posted by Varsam

Really? Because...



...that looks like a whole lot of unnecessary bitching to me. Criticism is constructive, what you're doing is ranting. If you're going to unsub, do it. Don't be a drama queen about it and announce it to the world as if it matters to anyone but you.

It matters to the player. It matters to their friends who they use to play with, their outfits, and the overall PlanetSide Community. But most of all it matters the most to SOE.

You didn't just get the OP saying that he was quitting, you got several.

I'm not really sure if the Devs read the posts over here anymore, but if they do. They got some feedback to learn from.

[Taramafor]

Originally Posted by Varsam

Really? Because...



...that looks like a whole lot of unnecessary bitching to me. Criticism is constructive, what you're doing is ranting. If you're going to unsub, do it. Don't be a drama queen about it and announce it to the world as if it matters to anyone but you.

Sooo.... You're bitching about someone elses bitching?

[Skittles]

Originally Posted by Taramafor

Sooo.... You're bitching about someone elses bitching?

Well, not just that, he's being constructive about his bitching, so its all good.

[CzuukWaterson]

Originally Posted by SgtMAD

I just saw the new PS4 commercial

this game is headed straight there,we were the beta for the console game LOL

and we goddamn paid them for it,its friggin hilarious

the PC revenue stream is about tapped out,so they move it to console and soak a whole new crop of "players"

Tapped out? They just sent a check for $8000 to a kid for one helmet. Doesn't sound that tapped out to me.

It seems more and more that they continue to release weapons knowing that they are OP and with every intention of nerfing them once they reach market saturation.

[kubacheski]

Originally Posted by CzuukWaterson

Tapped out? They just sent a check for $8000 to a kid for one helmet. Doesn't sound that tapped out to me.

It seems more and more that they continue to release weapons knowing that they are OP and with every intention of nerfing them once they reach market saturation.

Now thats a money treadmill.

1. Make OP weapon
2. Get people to buy it
3. Nerf it
4. Make next OP weapon
5. Goto step 1

That beats the hell out of a subscription model. Subs quit when game is unbalanced. Twinks paying for OP weapons will continue forever. And players get paid to model the OP stuff! Now SOE doesnt even have to make their own content. Holy crap, did Higby, T-ray, and crew just work themselves out of a job?

[SgtMAD]

Originally Posted by CzuukWaterson

Tapped out? They just sent a check for $8000 to a kid for one helmet. Doesn't sound that tapped out to me.

It seems more and more that they continue to release weapons knowing that they are OP and with every intention of nerfing them once they reach market saturation.

if you think that ppl are spending cash like they did 6 months ago on in-game crap then you aren't really paying attention
server pops are dropping and are only going to get worse between now and the new year due to all the new games being released and once players quit logging in you are going to lose a certain percentage of those ppl forever
some will come back but you will never get enough back to stem the flow of ppl leaving.

I realize that the PSU crowd is a small percentage of the actual playerbase
if you look at outfit attendance numbers,they are falling on all servers.

you can believe anything you want, I have been "observing" SOE for over a decade now and have watched them destroy games before.

I have been subbed since release and I am going to let it lapse next month,I was patient and figured I would support them while they fixed the game but its been a damn year and there are still way too many problems with this game and no end in sight

many of us told SOE all this crap a year ago when they decided to push the release date,the game wasn't ready,it should have had atleast 6 conts and real sanctuaries and much more stable.

there is a trend here and it isn't up.

[CzuukWaterson]

Originally Posted by SgtMAD

if you think that ppl are spending cash like they did 6 months ago on in-game crap then you aren't really paying attention
server pops are dropping and are only going to get worse between now and the new year due to all the new games being released and once players quit logging in you are going to lose a certain percentage of those ppl forever
some will come back but you will never get enough back to stem the flow of ppl leaving.

I realize that the PSU crowd is a small percentage of the actual playerbase
if you look at outfit attendance numbers,they are falling on all servers.

you can believe anything you want, I have been "observing" SOE for over a decade now and have watched them destroy games before.

I have been subbed since release and I am going to let it lapse next month,I was patient and figured I would support them while they fixed the game but its been a damn year and there are still way too many problems with this game and no end in sight

many of us told SOE all this crap a year ago when they decided to push the release date,the game wasn't ready,it should have had atleast 6 conts and real sanctuaries and much more stable.

there is a trend here and it isn't up.

U mad bro?

They jut opened up servers in Brazil. They've got China. They've got Russians banging down the door to get in.

I think you've got a pretty limited perspective. I'm well aware of the numbers. In America. But we're not the biggest market anymore.

[kubacheski]

Originally Posted by CzuukWaterson

U mad bro?

They jut opened up servers in Brazil. They've got China. They've got Russians banging down the door to get in.

I think you've got a pretty limited perspective. I'm well aware of the numbers. In America. But we're not the biggest market anymore.

Too damn true. SOE isnt marketing, nor designing, this game for the PS1 crowd. Its a whole new world and theyre going for fresh meat. MLG and console pups. I'm mad about it, too, but i feel i can bitch and complain as the sold it to us as a PS1 replacement and didnt deliver. Actually the took it a completely different direction. My boss always says "follow the money" and thats what theyre doing. Wouldnt you if you were in SOEs shoes? So can you really blame them. But its shitty they werent up front about it when they sucked all us in during alpha with false promises.

[Skittles]

Originally Posted by CzuukWaterson

U mad bro?

They jut opened up servers in Brazil. They've got China. They've got Russians banging down the door to get in.

I think you've got a pretty limited perspective. I'm well aware of the numbers. In America. But we're not the biggest market anymore.

U mad bro?

You acknowledge dwindling numbers in America like its a positive thing. The fact they're dropping players so rapidly is some how a good thing, regardless of location? I may be a little behind on my school smarts, but if memory serves me right Brazil isn't exactly a hugely populated country of excessive wealth playing internet games compared to North America. Maybe theres a lot more disposable wealth there I was aware of. Enlighten us. China I will give you.


I have no clue how to multi-quote so
@Kubacheski

When, where or why would you have ever been "sucked in" after alpha to believe that PS2 was EVER going to be anything like PS1? It was evident in every aspect it was never going to be anything like PS1. Any sucking in people did was on them to sub, pay for SC or anything else in a belief PS2 would ever be like PS1.

Those that put money towards PS2 because they liked PS2 is fine. But, if you or anyone put money forward thinking at some point PS2 would be like PS1 then that is on them for being naïve or uninformed.

[CzuukWaterson]

Originally Posted by Skittles

U mad bro?

You acknowledge dwindling numbers in America like its a positive thing. The fact they're dropping players so rapidly is some how a good thing, regardless of location? I may be a little behind on my school smarts, but if memory serves me right Brazil isn't exactly a hugely populated country of excessive wealth playing internet games compared to North America. Maybe theres a lot more disposable wealth there I was aware of. Enlighten us. China I will give you.


I have no clue how to multi-quote so
@Kubacheski

When, where or why would you have ever been "sucked in" after alpha to believe that PS2 was EVER going to be anything like PS1? It was evident in every aspect it was never going to be anything like PS1. Any sucking in people did was on them to sub, pay for SC or anything else in a belief PS2 would ever be like PS1.

Those that put money towards PS2 because they liked PS2 is fine. But, if you or anyone put money forward thinking at some point PS2 would be like PS1 then that is on them for being naïve or uninformed.

Not even remotely. Enlightened. I presented three examples that illustrate the global marketing strategy. That's just the start.

The problem in America isn't with overal numbers, it's retention. There are plenty of new players coming in every day.

Thing is, you don't have to retain players with a free to play business model so long as they drop a nice chunk of change up front. Ultimately, given the instant gratification seeking trends of the new generation of American gamers, it's probably not a good business model to seek to retain players anyway.

[kubacheski]

Originally Posted by Skittles

U mad bro?

You acknowledge dwindling numbers in America like its a positive thing. The fact they're dropping players so rapidly is some how a good thing, regardless of location? I may be a little behind on my school smarts, but if memory serves me right Brazil isn't exactly a hugely populated country of excessive wealth playing internet games compared to North America. Maybe theres a lot more disposable wealth there I was aware of. Enlighten us. China I will give you.


I have no clue how to multi-quote so
@Kubacheski

When, where or why would you have ever been "sucked in" after alpha to believe that PS2 was EVER going to be anything like PS1? It was evident in every aspect it was never going to be anything like PS1. Any sucking in people did was on them to sub, pay for SC or anything else in a belief PS2 would ever be like PS1.

Those that put money towards PS2 because they liked PS2 is fine. But, if you or anyone put money forward thinking at some point PS2 would be like PS1 then that is on them for being naïve or uninformed.

naïve or uninformed, huh? how bout around Fan Faire 2011 when they were touting it as the next Planetside? How about the PCGamer mag story where they gave away beta keys? How about when T-ray said its Planetside on crack? Those times?

How about even further back when it was called PS:Next and they were just doing a graphics update - (couldn't get more PS1 than PS1 with a facelift - why do you think T-Ray is back on the team)? Then ForgeLight came into play and they were going to clone PS1 on it. Or at the developers panel when they talked of their "Planetside Moments" that they were going to carry forward into PS2?

Those times when SOE directly stated or insinuated that PS2 was going to be bigger and better than PS1? Yea i remember those times.

It was always going to be like PS1 up until they found they couldn't fucking do it and lightning wouldn't strike twice for them. PS1 was ahead of it's time and PS2 is behind it's time.

They've done what they can with it, but damn man, it's not a sequel to PS1 like they told everyone it was going to be. It doesn't even deserve the Planetside moniker as it's so divergent from the original. Look at the solutions they're throwing into PS2...they're all from PS1 and they're mechanics that they said that were in the game during internal testing before they tried other things (hex vs lattice being the prime example).

But no, I've not dropped any cash other than the PCGamer mag. I'm a cynic and haven't given SOE the benfit of the doubt since CoreCombat when they fucked up PS1. So yea, some of us have a chip on our shoulder. Knock it off, i fucking dare ya.