Three games, Three decisions

[TekDragon]

Hamma,

I, too, praise WestWood for their legacy. However, im not stuck in the past enough to not realize that CnC Generals is a game that attains versatility and balance in a fast paced, beautiful RTS.. the likes of which developers will be emulating for years.

No longer will we be living in the shadows of RTS genres like WC (1,2, & 3) or CnC Red Alert (1 & 2) where "skill" was denoted by who had the fastest build order and could chug out 50 knights or 50 tanks first.

Generals is a game where the units have roles defined by their strengths and weaknesses. 50 tanks costing 40k credits will be laid to waste by 10 anti-tank infantry costing 4k.

Ive been waiting a long time for a RTS which required actual skill on the battlefield. Where positioning of troops in key locations, flanking, terrain tactics, and (most importantly) micro management played a large part of the battle. My prayers have finally been answered

Honestly if someone could give me a reason why they dont like Generals other than "EA isnt WestWood", "Other CnC games sucked", or "I havent bothered playing online"... then maybe ill take you seriously.

Anything?

[Hamma]

I just hate EA for eating up all the good little companies

I played the MP demo/test of generals. Will have to pick up the full one of these days. I never said it sucked, I just liked the good 'ol days

[TekDragon]

I never said it sucked, I just liked the good 'ol days

No doubt my man... no doubt...

[r3d]

Originally posted by TekDragon
You obviously havent if you think this game allows for pussy stategies involving bringing '50' tanks in under 2 minutes. First of all, the earliest you can attack with is in 5-6 minutes (for it to even have a tank or two). The quickest rush is with china, where they make 2-3 gatling tanks and rush you.

If your playing US, no sweat, a single paladin or crusader tank will take them out. China? Pffft.. the gat tanks wont do shit to you anyway cause your gathering units arent air. GLA? stinger sites will r4pe them.

Got a US player rushing with a humvee filled with rocket soldiers? US: use 2 rocket soldiers to laser the humvee and 1-2 rangers to handle the soldiers that *might* escape alive. China: use a gat tank and strafe, cake. GLA: your stinger sites, tunnels, and infantry will do the trick.

Personally, i think youve never played the game before. Anyone that compared this game to the other CnCs by lumping together as "all" obviously has no clue. This game wasnt even made by the same developers (westood vs EA).

$20 says your some guy that read a magazine article written by some punk who got raped 5 times in a row online and decided to give the game a C cause hes a newb that wants to use his "l33t zerging rush" and win.





Just like the people who have never tried marijuana or bothered to learn anything about it claming that "Duh, it makes you stupid"

I dont you need to explain how to play games I alredy know how to play.

$20 says your some guy that read a magazine article written by some punk who got raped 5 times in a row online and decided to give the game a C cause hes a newb that wants to use his "l33t zerging rush" and win.

Didn't I tell you to stop jumping to assumptions?
everything in that quote up there is false.
I was following generals since they annouced it.
I followed it for along time and then It finnaly was on pre-order.
I got it played it for a week straight. Beat all single play missions in under a day and then had a crap load of friends over and we played generals for about 2-3 weeks.

Personally, i think youve never played the game before. Anyone that compared this game to the other CnCs by lumping together as "all" obviously has no clue. This game wasnt even made by the same developers (westood vs EA).

It was started by westwood dumbass, EA took over half way through and fucked it up hardcore. I think youve never played the game. You dont even know what to do. If you cant even built a ton of tanks and win in under 5 mins, you obvoiusly suck really bad at all games. ever.

Now like I said before, stfu. You clearly know NOTHING. I hate how you jump to random assumptions before even hearing what I have to say. If youre going to be a fucking idiot over one game. You shouldent be here. I asked for help on what games to get, not 5 posts on how to play a game that Ive prolly played more than you. If you read ANYTHING in my posts you would understand, But youre an idiot.

[TekDragon]

It was started by westwood dumbass, EA took over half way through and fucked it up hardcore. I think youve never played the game. You dont even know what to do. If you cant even built a ton of tanks and win in under 5 mins, you obvoiusly suck really bad at all games. ever.

Like i said, you havent even played this game.

5 minutes is what it takes to get your supply center, barracks, energy plant, and war factory up.

Then, if you actually want to pump out tanks you need to spend the remainder of your money on supply units to get you enough income. Otherwise you can make a grand total of 1 or 2 tanks before you run out of money and are royally fuked.

Time to make 8-10 tanks? Between 10-12 minutes. Thats not even counting the time it takes you to get over there.

Your either a liar.. or your playing hacked games of Generals. Im pretty certain its the former.

If you ever decide to decide to actually get the game give me a ring on AIM at TekGriffon. Ill show you how to get schooled on multiplayer. Im almost positive your ass aint gonna break my 100+ winning streak.

[r3d]

Like i said, you havent even played this game.

I told you that you were an idiot. Still jumping to assumptions.
Youde know that westwood started it to, and then EA took over. If you had followed the game for as long as I did.

Your either a liar.. or your playing hacked games of Generals. Im pretty certain its the former.

See, jumping to assuptions again. You clearly know nothing.
You act like you know everything I've done in generals, ever. Youre obvoiusly not even a hardcore player like I was.

Now since youve been missing everything Ive said.

STOP MAKING RANDOM ASSUMPTIONS BEFORE YOU EVEN READ WHAT IVE SAID, STOP TELLING ME HOW TO PLAY A GAME THAT I HAVE MORE EXPERIANCE AT YOU, STOP REPLYING TO THIS THREAD CAUSE YOURE JUST AN IDIOT.

[Happy lil Elf]

C&C Generals, although it's rather short. Planetside if you don't have it. Don't buy DAoC, it's crap. In fact Don't buy any of the MMORPGs currently out. Wait for SWG and/or EQ2 (maybe WoW although I have serious reservations about this one)

Deus Ex 2? I hadn't heard they were making a sequel. Very very cool that they are though

Homeworld 2 might be interesting, first was an amusing way to kill a couple hours at least. Same with Halo on PC. Never played the game on X-Box because, well, X-box is the spawn of satan

HL2? Meh. Don't get me wrong, I'll probably still play it. The first one was really cool the first time I played through it. Hated the "oh nose the icky monster is coming after me!" aspect of the game though.

You can have Doom 3. The first one was good only because of how revolutionary it was. The second one was horrid, if I remember correctly you couldn't even jump x_x I dunno again I just don't get inot the whole kill the scary monster type of games.

Much more excited for Deus Ex 2 (now that I know it exists ). That game had such a cool story behind it

[TekDragon]

Never played online, ever.

Ok, i believe you. Trust me.

People find lameass stratigies and bring like 50 tanks to
kill you in under 2 mins.

No.

I got it played it for a week straight. Beat all single play missions in under a day

Doubtful

If you cant even built a ton of tanks and win in under 5 mins, you obvoiusly suck really bad at all games. ever.

Again, it is impossible to build any size army of tanks in 5 minutes (or 2 as you stated above). Your thinking of some other RTS game, not Generals.

Youre obvoiusly not even a hardcore player like I was.

Never played online, ever.

STOP TELLING ME HOW TO PLAY A GAME THAT I HAVE MORE EXPERIANCE AT YOU

its just too funny. Anyone else wunna lay down some money that this guy is a 12 year old who played sick today?

[r3d]

First off, Im 14, and schools out.
You know what, Im sick of your shit, youre a fucking idiot. Ide be willing to bet youre 12, not I.
If you seriously dont belive Ive beaten all of singleplay in under a day. Come check.
If youve never ran into someone that tank rushed you in the first few mins of the game. Youre really fucking lucky or youve been playing n00bs the whole time. If you still dont belive me, Come over here and have a few games with my friends and I.

Im now going to ignore you. Youre quite possibly the stupidest person I've meet on these fourms, even worse than Dharkbayne.
You jump to assumptions out of NOWHERE, you think you know so much more about generals than I, and you cant even proove it. You keep telling me how to do things, when I know how to to them, better then you.

EDIT: Wait wait, How does it feel to get owned by a 14 year old again?

[TekDragon]

EDIT: Wait wait, How does it feel to get owned by a 14 year old again?

I dont know. So far ive only had the (dis)pleasure of being lied to and rambled at by one.

Ill let you know when it happens. I assure you, it wont be you. You lack the spelling skills, verbal knowledge, and common sence to "pwn" anyone, much less make an argument.

Go ahead and keep "hardcore" style playing Generals while "never playing online, ever" and keep getting "rushed by 50 tanks in five minutes" despite the fact that its literally impossible.

Again, if you ever decide to actually buy the game, contact me on AIM "TekGriffon" and ill be happy to show you just how much of a RTS n00b you are.

[r3d]

Hey, I unignore for one min and you reply. How sad

I dont know. So far ive only had the (dis)pleasure of being lied to and rambled at by one.

Please, Go back and read my posts. all you do Is skim through a post and see what you can pick on.

Go ahead and keep "hardcore" style playing Generals while "never playing online, ever" and keep getting "rushed by 50 tanks in five minutes" despite the fact that its literally impossible.

Again, read my posts. And if you cant even tell sarcasim. You truly are the idiot youre shaping yourself to be.

Ill let you know when it happens. I assure you, it wont be you. You lack the spelling skills, verbal knowledge, and common sence to "pwn" anyone, much less make an argument.

Good thing I never said pwn, hey?
That just prooves again that you havent read any of my posts.

[r3d]

And tek, I did try to message you on AIM, good thing you have that away message on.

[Strygun]

OK you two. I've read thru your comments and I've come to the conclusion that neither of you are going to give up your arguments.

Here's what I'm suggesting, no, telling, you to do. Use the ignore feature! Go to the most recent post by the other person (if you're r3d, go to tek. If you're tek, go to r3d.) and look at the bottom right. See the little [I]? That means ignore. Both of you click it on the other person. Trust me. It will settle many, many things.

I'm a laid back mod just like hamma, so I'm not going to lock this over a little argument. But please guys, let's try to act a little more civil?

[TekDragon]

I've come to the conclusion that neither of you are going to give up your arguments.

Argument entails both parties having logical points. This kid just keeps throwing the dumbest shit he can think up at me. I ignored his ass after the big red text post (maybe he made it big and red to disguise all the glaring grammar errors?).

Thanks anyway

[Strygun]

You're not helping the problem by insulting him, tek.

Let's get back on subject or find a new one.