Female characters?

[Bags]

Originally Posted by cashfoyogash

Women should not be allowed in combat jobs, nor should there be gay men. Sadly the second is unavoidable but from a game stand point like i said as long as the silhouette and the hit boxes match the male avatars then I am all for it.

Did bronze elemental make another account?

[BorisBlade]

Originally Posted by 2coolforu

Yeah, exactly. Get into an organized group that plays a game and uses voice chat and out of maybe 100-200 people perhaps 1-2 are female whereas far more than 1% of avatars are female. Obviously the games I like to play might not be popular among the fairer sex due to gender stereotyping but hey, compared to the rather large amount of people that claim to be women there is a clear disparity.

This also spawned the GURLLLLLLLLL Gamer, e.g. people who just have bio's full of 'I'M A GURRRL YOU HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THAT, I DON'T CARE I'M A GURLLLL. BTW I'F YOU HADN'T NOTICED I ACTUALLY HAVE A VAGINA, SRSLY' either because they are a man desperately trying to convince people or because they are hilariously insecure.

Anyway that was totally spurious, I don't see the problem with having female avatars - games are games afterall, people play them to enjoy them and if they want to play as a female avatar then I don't see why they shouldn't' be allowed to.

Now while FPS games have much less females playin em. World of Warcraft for example is 40% female, serioulsy, check the Nielsen numbers. So dont get hung up on the myth. We had prob 10-15% females in our ps outfit so wasnt alot but they are there. In fact i play more lately with a few girls than guys when i log in nowadays.

Girls generally go for less of the in your face stuff but will often do things like driving vehicles, sniping, cloaking, CE, support roles. These less intense roles seem to be more popular than the HA super twitch in your face killers that guys often go for. Obviously this is not set in stone as we had a girl who was a bad ass hardcore killer too, but the majority arent as interested in that aspect. Somethin they need to keep in mind with PS2.

[2coolforu]

And EVE Is like 5% female, I'd wager that most fast paced FPS games have similar demographic breakdowns. That's pretty statistically significant when it should really be 50/50, WoW would really be an outlier and it's not all that surprising; casual games tend to be far more popular than 'hardcore' games (massive inverted commas) with females and WoW is about as casual as you get, not very demanding in terms of system resources and it's all grind.

But hopefully times will change as they generally do and we can see the gap close, but as society is standing now there is a huge gap that still exists and the attitudes are still there.

[cashfoyogash]

Originally Posted by Bags

Did bronze elemental make another account?

No, I was in the infantry a couple years ago and i dont feel women or gay men should be allowed in combat roles. It is a well shared belief and it isnt because women or gay men cant do the job it is because of the distraction and problems that are created. For example sexual harassment toward women and just harassment period toward openly gay soldiers, it creates a very hostile work environment and some people just cant take it and snap and either kill themselves or other soldiers.

[Snow]

So rather than finding a solution and trying to create equality all women and gay men should not be allowed to join?

I'm sure that there would be some cases where bullying will occur but can you tell me that bullying doesn't already happen between straight men in the armed forces?

I think it's ridiculous that no matter how fit or able someone may be that they are refused the right to serve their country based on whether they sleep with men or not.

[Raymac]

Let's hear what the girls here have to say about it?

*crickets*
*tumbleweed*

[raw]

clearly, the female characters should be all naked.

Let's hear what the girls here have to say about it?

there are no girls on the internet. don't let THEM fool you into believin'

[Aractain]

Originally Posted by Raymac

Let's hear what the girls here have to say about it?

*crickets*
*tumbleweed*

How do you know they havn't? They could be watching us... RIGHT NOW!

[Snow]

Originally Posted by Aractain

How do you know they havn't? They could be watching us... RIGHT NOW!

Don't be ridiculous, there aren't any women on the internet.

Edit: lol didn't even see Raw's post.

[Aractain]

I think that joke is responsable for several suicides, it is just so old now! As Kanye and friends said "It aint funny anymore, try different jokes".

For example: "There are no women here because they are all picking out new shoes to go with thier bright red REXO".

[cashfoyogash]

Originally Posted by Snow

So rather than finding a solution and trying to create equality all women and gay men should not be allowed to join?

I'm sure that there would be some cases where bullying will occur but can you tell me that bullying doesn't already happen between straight men in the armed forces?

I think it's ridiculous that no matter how fit or able someone may be that they are refused the right to serve their country based on whether they sleep with men or not.

This is completely off the posters topic, well kinda. It does have to do with females in combat roles. They do have a solution and it is that they are not allowed to serve in combat roles. Women do see combat, women do serve their countries very well, gay people are abundant in the armed forces. One of my companies sgts walked in on a couple dudes one time... not very pretty. Yes there already is alot of bullying and rape in the military as is so thats why i support there not being any more distractions than already present. You wont have that in the PS universe though so as long as silhouettes and hit boxes are identical then Im all for it.

[CutterJohn]

Originally Posted by cashfoyogash

No, I was in the infantry a couple years ago and i dont feel women or gay men should be allowed in combat roles. It is a well shared belief and it isnt because women or gay men cant do the job it is because of the distraction and problems that are created. For example sexual harassment toward women and just harassment period toward openly gay soldiers, it creates a very hostile work environment and some people just cant take it and snap and either kill themselves or other soldiers.

Perhaps they should behave like men and not little boys with guns then.

[Bags]

If grown men can't serve with gays without harassing them then maybe those men shouldn't be soldiers?

[Aractain]

So will there be gay characters in the game? Id love to walk into a base and see a couple of guys and a horse and be like "WTF? How did you guys get a HORSE?!? I want one!".

[Firefly]

Originally Posted by cashfoyogash

No, I was in the infantry a couple years ago and i dont feel women or gay men should be allowed in combat roles. It is a well shared belief and it isnt because women or gay men cant do the job it is because of the distraction and problems that are created. For example sexual harassment toward women and just harassment period toward openly gay soldiers, it creates a very hostile work environment and some people just cant take it and snap and either kill themselves or other soldiers.

Hi, leg. Papa-Victor here. The most vocal proponent of no-gays and no-women are ignorant grunts who don't know shit about shit. We had a saying in Battalion - if you're going to put women in our unit, fine - make them perform according to male standards. If they can survive, they're welcome here. I had a gay soldier in my squad who was terrified to let anyone know. Some of us knew, and none of that knew cared. As long as he did his job, he was one of us. Now I *KNOW* you're not about to tell me that dirty leg units are better than my beloved Regiment, but the bottom line is that if we can do it, you can do it. So you need to fix that attitude because I know plenty of females and gay soldiers downrange RIGHT NOW who are the equal, if not the better, of about 70% of the leg grunts out there. Hell, they've had women in SF for years now - are you saying SF is a bunch of pussies and that you legs are better than SF because you have no distractions?