Originally Posted by Sirisian
I think you get it. That's the whole idea with prone and other gameplay mechanics. They don't have to be silver bullets for every situation. Going prone inside of a base on a roof might be a good choice, but you leave youself stationary and an easy target. Outside if you see someone running though you might not feel like spraying bullets. Especially if they don't see you at night. You can easily choose to crouch then transition to prone and shoot at the enemy then stand back up. Huge tactical advantage when you don't have an obvious form of cover for longer range shots. This goes hand in hand with a proper implementation. If you've read my other threads or anyone elses that supported prone or was against it no one wanted dolphin diving. We all unanimously voted for a simple crouch to prone animation to keep things sane with proper collision support when prone. I digress the other threads beat this into the ground.
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The example you give is a fairly rare occurrence. Think battlefield conditions, you wouldn't want to drop prone because an enemy might already be aiming at you. Or at least I wouldn't. First shot fired would attract the runner's attention, and while being prone would give you a serious advantage, especially a night, it would attract more then just the runner's attention. Crouching serves the same purpose and maintains mobility.
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Also it's because when I suggest "my" idea it's because I feel like it is a very clean solution that allows lean in every foreseeable use case for it. People can use it to look or to shoot without making it feel cheap if it can only be activated when not moving and leaves the player somewhat exposed by removing mobility. (Because not moving as we saw could get you killed very quick).
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You present a mechanic that is complicated, yet does nothing that simply crouch walking around the corner with a sweeping field of fire couldn't accomplish. And it tactically offers less protection since the lean function you describe is pretty universal in terms of how much exposure you give, while crouch walking around gradually opens up your field while giving you a chance to stop and gun down opponents as you see them. That works for long range or open areas. Close Quarters you'll want to move faster because the enemy will see you before you see them and accuracy isn't a concern at those ranges.
It's not about providing a variety of options for every situation. It's about finding the most effective ones given basic circumstances. And a simple lean function adds nothing that can't be done without it, or done better with other tactics.
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It seems like a cover mechanic isn't necessary. Also I'd rather be able to lean without being next to a wall. If I'm standing behind someone who is leaning out a door I might want to crouch a little ways back to only reveal the top part of my character. Forcing my character to be next to a wall to activate such a stationary option doesn't seem necessary. Especially if we assume I'm not moving then I don't need my hands on a and d and can just use q and e to perform the lean. This is under my assumption that lean can only be activated when not moving and uses a very slight delay in the animation.
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Again these are tactics that could be done without a lean function. Crouched person goes around the corner and a stander swings around behind him. Also these kinds of situations probably won't happen in PS2. When people use cover in PS1, it's in standing or crouched positions in nichs and behind crates, taking advantage of choke points and kill zones rather then actual cover.
The game isn't meant to simulate paramilitary tactics. It's meant to create a large scale battlefield. Small mechanics like lean just aren't needed.
If a cover system were used then it would basically just improve the speed at which you pivot out of and into cover, so you aren't relying on normal infantry movement to pop in and out of cover. It's a tougher system to implement and very prone to bugs, but short of such a system I see no reason for cheaper mechanics.
In PS1 (and I can already tell this will be the case in PS2), you will rely on cover to reduce your firing range and therefore reduce the number of enemies that can shoot at you. As a means of reducing your exposure to enemies directly in front of you, not so much. The weapons are too accurate for it to be useful in that sense.
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