State Of The Union Baby!!!!!!!!!!

[MrVicchio]

Jsut using an EXTEREME example to make a point.

[MrVicchio]

Dont make me slap you.

[Lexington_Steele]

Originally posted by MrVicchio
Hypocrits the lot of you are. Move to France and live in Socialist Hell there and quit trying to Tear Down America, you all do not deserve the Freedoms of this Country.

Politics is not as simple as doing what is right and wrong. It is a very hypocritical process. Show me a politician, I will show you a hypocrite. Politics is a game where you try to be as effective as possible. This often mean making deals and voting for things you are against. This also often mean making shady deals for the greater good. The politician that refuses to get their hands dirty is not the most effective politician.

Just because I support a politician does not mean that I personally support every thing he/she does or every thing he/she stands for.

I hope you do realize that that different liberals have different views even though you are very fond of stereotyping liberals. You republicans, always stereotyping people.

[Sol]

Christ on a bike! Things are outta control here. Keeping it civil is clearly out of the question. Good post Airlift, although I think politics is a little more involved than Pepsi vs Coke.

Its unfortunate that no one on here seems capable treating an opposing point of view with any respect. Whatever, I'm not hear to write 10 pages about politics, so I wont get involved with the flamefest next time.

Go Planetside!

Edit: Vicchio needs some valium.

[MrVicchio]

No, there needs be a tad bit of reality Check going on here. The slamming of Busha nd the use of flase information to back up DNC talking points gets old. Thats not debate. Debate means some one can admit they are wrong.

BTW ATM I am ina rather pickle postition, one of my clan [ReTrY] quit today after someone crossed the line for the umpteenth time.

So my nerves are toilet.

[Navaron]

ABRAAX

Nothing like blanket, baseless statements.

"George W Bush = North americas own Ossama bin ladden"

Yeah youre right, he's killed 3000 innocent people who were just working. Waitaminute, BJ Clinton *DIIIID* do that, we just owe them another thousand.

"sorry man the guy is fuckin scary and luckily canada is smart enough to hold back ,in this whole thing . and seriously saddam doesnt scare me half as much as what bush is capeable of "

Canada's not smart enough, they are scared enough. No offense, but when was the last damn time any European country or Canada went out of their way, and took the initiative to halt attocities anywhere in the world.

I think that you don't know when to be scared. America could have leveled every damn country that had even 1 terrorist in it. We didn't though did we?

Your buddy Hussein has enough anthrax to kill a million people. You would think that a guy that kills his own people daily, and who has sponsered terrorism all over the world, would scare you.

I hope that he doesnt' pick your home town for the next attack, cause I don't know how you'd ever get your foot out of your mouth. Then again, I don't know how you got your head that far up your ass either.

[Lexington_Steele]

Originally posted by {BOHICA}Navaron
No offense, but when was the last damn time any European country or Canada went out of their way, and took the initiative to halt attocities anywhere in the world.

It is a little thing called a right to have sovereignty.

[Navaron]

Or Cowardice. America had to go over there and stop Milosivich, there own fucking neighbors turned away refugees begging for asylum. If that was going on in Mexico, Canada whereever, we'd be there in a heartbeat helping the people acheive freedom.

This whole force you views on people is bullshit, you can't force freedom on anyone.

[Lexington_Steele]

"But I also made it clear to (Vladimir Putin) that it's important to think beyond the old days of when we had the concept that if we blew each other up, the world would be safe." -George W. Bush, May 1, 2001

Gotta love our Bush

[Navaron]

Gotta love Reagan, MADD was a great, wise policy.

[MrVicchio]

Soverignty... The lefts version of that is the UN runs teh world...

[MrVicchio]

GUYS LEts all take a deep breath, myself included, and toen teh rhetoric down okay? Or I will ask AFEX to kill this thread.

[Lexington_Steele]

Originally posted by {BOHICA}Navaron
Or Cowardice. America had to go over there and stop Milosivich, there own fucking neighbors turned away refugees begging for asylum. If that was going on in Mexico, Canada whereever, we'd be there in a heartbeat helping the people acheive freedom.

This whole force you views on people is bullshit, you can't force freedom on anyone.

Or the rest of the world can come over here and make us get rid of the death penalty. Is that their right or do we have the right to decide for ourselves?

You tread on very shakey ground when you throw out the right to have soverignty.

[Nohimn]

there was an interesting article in the times that took an optimistic view of a possible outcome of the war... If only I can find it...

[Navaron]

Mass Genocide is very very different than the death penalty. America has one of the best death penalty policies in the world. You find me a better court system anywhere.

"You tread on very shakey ground when you throw out the right to have soverignty."

What about each individuals right to freedom? Does a dictators right to sovereignty surpass it's population's right to freedom? I think not.

All of these new age liberals, and pie in the sky European countries all have their heads in the sand. They think everyone is good hearted, and if you just keep your heads down and make peace with everyone, it'll be ok. The French sure can't learn that lesson.

"Peace in our time" That sound familier to anyone? Now...who can tell me what happened next?