What really happened at the pentagon on 9/11?

[Lartnev]

Originally Posted by Bugger

One question I do have is where the hell are the wings, i mean really, wouldn't the wings have made marks on the outside of the building? Only thing that gets me, unless the wings can fold up like some anime cartoon.

Well there was a big debate today in an IRC channel on Quakenet about this very fact, and several people (including some physicists) said that it's very possible that the plane vapourised, and it's perfectly possible that on impact the wings got bent back as it crashed through the building. I mean the wing wouldn't be the first thing to hit, it would be the engines. Besides if anything were to seriously blow up, it's gonna be the flimsy wings containing aviation fuel.

But apparently (I hate that word but it's all I have) they did tests of reinforced structures to prevent this stuff from happening to nuclear power plants, and they flew fighter planes into it it to test the protection. The fighters were quite literally vapourised due to the sheer speed they were flying at.

[MrVicchio]

So you guys realize that that plane hit with ATLEAST 400 ft lbs per square inch?

Do you knwo what sort of kinetic energy that requires?

Also, recall the two planes that hit the WTC, what was the WTC made out of? It was a hallow structure made of steel and glass. Hmmm. And those planes disentigrated on impact. Now Take a hardened concerte block like the Pentagon.

Physiscs 101, Common Sense 101. Its not hard people.

[Jekz]

I failed Physics and Common Sense eludes me...

Why do you have Bush as your avatar?

[cyberkiller]

mabey he is bush? or a C I A S P Y omg!


lol ciaspys my ass

[firecrackerNC]

Because hes pro bush. Why do you have a female with a gun in yours?

[AztecWarrior]

I guess I'd better get out my tin helmet to protect myself from the government mind-control rays.

1. Where is the 757? Where are the people?
2. Wouldn't the FBI NEED the tapes to investigate exactly what happened?

[Exano]

The hole was alot bigger then they make it out to be in those pictures. Speaking as someone who had to go in there, its something terrifying to see. There were peoples charred bodys, with there hands still on there coffee cups halfway to their mouth.

But it is an intresting attempt, but I find it hard to belive, that, while GWB sucks and all, he would blow up the pentagon.

[hazzer2007]

I bileve in the conpirisy.

I was on discovery (in the UK) last night and they used many experst in buildings attacks to talk about it, they said that:-

1) The goverment new that a terrist attack was going to happen to New York in september and they worned important people not to go to New York or to take air travil to the USA.
2) the goverment had taking terrorit inusrence out on the twin towers 2 weeks before the attack resulting in $3 billion pay up.
3) Unless there was very flamibly matireals in the towers, the jet fuel was exploded outside the towers, so there was not enought heat to melt the steel frame supporting the effected levels.
4) Explosives was used in the twin towers to bring down the towers as engeners said that they did not fall like a tower would effected like that.
5) Explosives was used on the pentagon as well
6) A hard nose missile was used as the walls of the pentagon are renforced steel walls and a plane would never penetrate the first wall, let alown 6 (or was it 8)
7) The most importent part was that 8 of the suspected terririst are alive, there names were used
8) Also, when presedent Bush was told of the first tower being attacked, he sat there, and when he was told the second tower was attacked, he stayed there, and showed no menotion, not even in shock
9) The pentagon has a SAM site but it was never activated when the towers was attacked, even thought they never thourght that they could be the next target. It could of easly taken out the so called 757 and saved lives (the lives of people inside the pentagon that were in the effected part)
10) there was no reacage, no flight box, that thing is ment to survive crashes, fires and hugh water pressure, and arn't they located in the rear of the plane, so it would survive the impact even though no other part of the aircraft did.
11) The main terrorists passport was found on the ground, not burnt, in perfect condition at the base of one of the towers 11 min after the plane he was on went into the tower, it should of bruned in the socalled flames that melted the steel structure, and why was it down there, shouldn't it be, if it survived, in the top floors?
12) all films and pics of the impact to the pentagon have been confinscated by the fbi and have not been relised to the public. If the 757 went into the pentagon, why would they withhold info that proves that the 757 hit it, they are making people wonder about it, they are making it worse.

As for myself, I am anti american government, not anti american, I feel sorry for all the people that lost a member of their family, but i bileve that the american govenment knew that it was going to happen and should of warned the people in the towers not to go to work in september.

Presedent Bush is hidding something!!!

[EarlyDawn]

Originally Posted by Infernus

Indeed... heh...

"It was all staged" As I look through a telescope and see, whats that? The lunar lander's bottom half...

Uh, what kind of telescope are you using?

[Infernus]

Originally Posted by hazzer2007

I bileve in the conpirisy.

I was on discovery (in the UK) last night and they used many experst in buildings attacks to talk about it, they said that:-

1) The goverment new that a terrist attack was going to happen to New York in september and they worned important people not to go to New York or to take air travil to the USA.
2) the goverment had taking terrorit inusrence out on the twin towers 2 weeks before the attack resulting in $3 billion pay up.
3) Unless there was very flamibly matireals in the towers, the jet fuel was exploded outside the towers, so there was not enought heat to melt the steel frame supporting the effected levels.
4) Explosives was used in the twin towers to bring down the towers as engeners said that they did not fall like a tower would effected like that.
5) Explosives was used on the pentagon as well
6) A hard nose missile was used as the walls of the pentagon are renforced steel walls and a plane would never penetrate the first wall, let alown 6 (or was it 8)
7) The most importent part was that 8 of the suspected terririst are alive, there names were used
8) Also, when presedent Bush was told of the first tower being attacked, he sat there, and when he was told the second tower was attacked, he stayed there, and showed no menotion, not even in shock
9) The pentagon has a SAM site but it was never activated when the towers was attacked, even thought they never thourght that they could be the next target. It could of easly taken out the so called 757 and saved lives (the lives of people inside the pentagon that were in the effected part)
10) there was no reacage, no flight box, that thing is ment to survive crashes, fires and hugh water pressure, and arn't they located in the rear of the plane, so it would survive the impact even though no other part of the aircraft did.
11) The main terrorists passport was found on the ground, not burnt, in perfect condition at the base of one of the towers 11 min after the plane he was on went into the tower, it should of bruned in the socalled flames that melted the steel structure, and why was it down there, shouldn't it be, if it survived, in the top floors?
12) all films and pics of the impact to the pentagon have been confinscated by the fbi and have not been relised to the public. If the 757 went into the pentagon, why would they withhold info that proves that the 757 hit it, they are making people wonder about it, they are making it worse.

You belittle the people that died... Shame on you.

Jet fuel burns hot... Jet fuel would be inside the twin towers and it would've been hot enough to melt steel... you also have to remember these aircraft were equipped to fly a Non-Stop transcontinental flight.

It is unknown wether the terrorists used explosive devices on the aircraft but whoever said that the towers collapsed the 'wrong' way is full of shit... The melted steal became to weak and litterally caused the towers to buckle in on themselves at mid-section. The one tower seemed more to fall because it was hit closer to the edge of the building, weakening steal in that corner causing the tower to slant that way... it became top heavy and the force pulled the building apart. The other tower was hit right in the center, a clean whole straigh through the middle... it took out steel girders as it went through and an extremly hot fire melted the remainder. Its like playing the game Jenga, if you remove one whole level in the mid section the top of the tower collapses... imagine that plus major structural damage.

The President did not move because he was reading to second graders... 6 and 7 year olds, how would you feel if the president was suddenly rushed away from reading to you because he was told that our nation was under attack... I'd be quite a bit scared. And please tell me what the president was supposed to do anyway, rush to New York and use his magic to stop the buildings from collapsing?

The black boxes are supposed to survive a plane crash... they aren't built to survive a plane crash, a 2000 degree fire and a few thousands tons of steel and concrete collapsing on them.

[SDM]

Originally Posted by EarlyDawn

Uh, what kind of telescope are you using?

The VLT in Chile, duh. Watch moar Discovery Science Channel.

[Infernus]

Originally Posted by EarlyDawn

Uh, what kind of telescope are you using?

Not MY telecope I was being facetious...


There are telescopes that, when at the right angle, can see the base of the lunar lander... there are pictures from various satilites as well... The only problem is that the majority of lunar landings were on the dark side of the moon... The bases aren't always visible.

[Dharkbayne]

Hazzer, you're a fucking moron.

[SDM]

Originally Posted by Infernus

Not MY telecope I was being facetious...


There are telescopes that, when at the right angle, can see the base of the lunar lander...

Wrong. The only one is the VLT.

Originally Posted by Infernus

there are pictures from various satilites as well... The only problem is that the majority of lunar landings were on the dark side of the moon... The bases aren't always visible.

You sure about that?

[Infernus]

leave me alone...



(shush! I have no idea... I'm just saying that we did land on the moon... SHUSH!)



Fight lies with lies I always say