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Old 2011-12-18, 06:53 AM   [Ignore Me] #76
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Re: Bring Back Stamina! Anti-Bunny Hop Petition


Originally Posted by Kouza View Post
lol.... Bunny Hopping Concerns... If they have a COF... there's your solution.
BUT IT EFFECTS MY IMMERSION!
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Old 2011-12-18, 01:59 PM   [Ignore Me] #77
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Bunny Hopping works in almost every modern shooter for a few reasons. Hitboxes are the main reason. In theory, Jumping is a superior tactic in a firefight because it suddenly boosts your speed in a random direction, raises your hitboxes up away from crossheirs, and in most games. Aiming DOWN is easier than aiming UP. The jumping player, now has his head hitbox protected, and has a much better view of YOUR head hitbox, you have to aim up, which takes longer and you're more likely to shoot his chest or shoulders/arms. And HE can just aim down and put shots into your head.

Planetside mitigated this by making just one hitbox. All weapons did the same damage regardless of where you were struck by the projectile. And you also moved slower when jumping and didnt jump very high. With the addition of hitboxes in Planetside 2, you WILL see bunny hopping, regardless of wether you like it or not. Crossheir bloom slightly mitigates this, but he will still have better shots on your head, then you will have on his. Assuming you are both using Headshot weapons that deal similar damage.

Stamina SHOULD return in Planetside 2, it will at least limit bunny hopping to an extent, and the weight of your armor should delegate how much stamina it takes to jump. If someone IS going to jump in combat, they will have to keep an eye on their stamina.

Oh, and Bunny hopping DOES work in Planetside. But i've only seen it done in a MAX unit, when the MAX jumps, he is more likely to dodge fast moving Deci missiles, or let the Missile hit below his feet and only take splash damage.

The only real way to stop Bunny Hopping in a shooter that uses Hitboxes, is to not allow players to jump at all.
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Old 2011-12-18, 02:12 PM   [Ignore Me] #78
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Originally Posted by SKYeXile View Post
BUT IT EFFECTS MY IMMERSION!
Not really It's not that CoF even represents mechanical accuracy only in games usually anyways nor it even should.

One thing for certain, if you jump and try to hit something in real life, you are gonna have a hard time, so wouldnt that be immersive?
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Old 2011-12-18, 04:16 PM   [Ignore Me] #79
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Not really It's not that CoF even represents mechanical accuracy only in games usually anyways nor it even should.

One thing for certain, if you jump and try to hit something in real life, you are gonna have a hard time, so wouldnt that be immersive?
i was more refering to the bunny hoping, not the cof.
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Old 2011-12-18, 04:19 PM   [Ignore Me] #80
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No stam in ps2.
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Old 2011-12-18, 06:36 PM   [Ignore Me] #81
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No stamina, bunny hopping will not provide any benefit, ADADAD will not be in PS2 due to the game more then likely not using extrapolation.

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Old 2011-12-18, 06:43 PM   [Ignore Me] #82
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No stamina, bunny hopping will not provide any benefit, ADADAD will not be in PS2 due to the game more then likely not using extrapolation.

End of discussion
We say this in every thread, they still dont get it.
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Old 2011-12-19, 03:18 AM   [Ignore Me] #83
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Originally Posted by SKYeXile View Post
We say this in every thread, they still dont get it.
Didn't you hear? It's really hard to figure out why something like warping occurs.
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Old 2011-12-19, 03:58 AM   [Ignore Me] #84
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There's bunny hopping in modern games? What "modern games" do you naysayers play? :P
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Old 2011-12-19, 04:24 AM   [Ignore Me] #85
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Didn't you hear? It's really hard to figure out why something like warping occurs.
I blame SOE's shit coding for warping, a game that supported upwards of 400 people in a single battle 10 years ago playable on 56k, with any ping and high packet loss, something that nobody has even attempted again yet?

TERRIBLE CODING!
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Old 2011-12-19, 05:37 AM   [Ignore Me] #86
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Originally Posted by SKYeXile View Post
I blame SOE's shit coding for warping, a game that supported upwards of 400 people in a single battle 10 years ago playable on 56k, with any ping and high packet loss, something that nobody has even attempted again yet?

TERRIBLE CODING!
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Old 2011-12-19, 05:45 AM   [Ignore Me] #87
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SKYeXile never warped.
this sarcasm?

you warp more than me, and you know it.

ping is a non factor to increased warping.
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