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Old 2012-01-12, 02:03 PM   [Ignore Me] #91
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Re: Stop SOPA From Becoming Law


I just stumbled on a excellent article on this subject : http://boingboing.net/2012/01/10/lockdown.html
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Old 2012-01-12, 08:45 PM   [Ignore Me] #92
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^^^ Nice read there... I'm still going but got hung up on 3D printing, had to look that one up... Had no idea we were doing this! Neat! Think replicator in Star Trek!
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Old 2012-01-13, 02:25 AM   [Ignore Me] #93
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Please watch this guys and pass it around. This speaks volumes of what really needs to be done.
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Old 2012-01-13, 08:57 AM   [Ignore Me] #94
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That rant about the difference between Steam and Origin/Game for Windows Lies/uPlay/whatever else...

This is an article on something that Valve CEO, Gabe Newell said.
http://www.escapistmagazine.com/news...ervice-Problem

"We think there is a fundamental misconception about piracy. Piracy is almost always a service problem and not a pricing problem," he said. "If a pirate offers a product anywhere in the world, 24 x 7, purchasable from the convenience of your personal computer, and the legal provider says the product is region-locked, will come to your country 3 months after the US release, and can only be purchased at a brick and mortar store, then the pirate's service is more valuable."

The proof is in the proverbial pudding. "Prior to entering the Russian market, we were told that Russia was a waste of time because everyone would pirate our products. Russia is now about to become [Steam's] largest market in Europe," Newell said.

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Old 2012-01-13, 08:23 PM   [Ignore Me] #95
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I don't mean to be a turd in the punchbowl, but... Is this a possible conflict of interest?

http://judiciary.house.gov/issues/Ro...Supporters.pdf

3 SOPA supporters come from Sony music.... so does Sony as a whole support SOPA?
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Old 2012-01-16, 01:20 AM   [Ignore Me] #96
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Glad to see we won't let them stop piracy, but we'll let them pass the NDAA which basically says they can imprison a US Civilian indefinitely without reason or cause and without giving them an attorney or even a trial.
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Old 2012-01-16, 10:08 AM   [Ignore Me] #97
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NDAA is screwed up and it's hilarious that it's gotten as far as it has (I use it as a big selling argument point when trying to get people to wake up about current politics and then I try to get them to write to they congress/senators to get Ron Paul into office [usually works]).

This thread is about SOPA tho and I honestly haven't been trying to keep up on it like I should. Anything important crop up on the issue?

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Old 2012-01-16, 11:50 PM   [Ignore Me] #98
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Thank god the bill has been basically overturned. They aren't pushing it anymore.
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Old 2012-01-17, 06:48 AM   [Ignore Me] #99
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For now, but you can bet your ass it will come up again after election year politics are done.
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Old 2012-01-17, 09:21 AM   [Ignore Me] #100
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It hasn't been overturned. It's been shelved. And only SOPA has been shelved - PIPA is still alive and well in the other half of Congress.
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Old 2012-01-17, 09:47 AM   [Ignore Me] #101
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After talking to my Grandpa about it he pretty much told me not to get into too much of a huff. As long as the Supreme Court isn't full of shit then anything that gets to them gets the ban hammer, but as long as it's in Congress they can still make changes to it and pass it in some form or another.

He made a good point.

So watching how the Supreme Court handles NDAA should be a fair indication on how they'll likely handle any other insane stuff like SOPA or Protect IP.

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Old 2012-01-18, 02:28 AM   [Ignore Me] #102
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To bad the SOPA/PIPA Blackout didn't start back in December, imagine all the people trying to get into Wikipedia to study....
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Old 2012-01-18, 09:37 AM   [Ignore Me] #103
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while not really a debate I wish to say F*#$ SOPA


Stop online censorship before the government passes this bill or else your next webpage might look like this

http://www.thereheis.com/gallery/d/6...-+CENSORED.gif

your posts may look like this

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_vpUcCdunsA....+22+14.09.jpg
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Old 2012-01-18, 10:51 AM   [Ignore Me] #104
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A few sites are doing this already media blackout - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pHOZcHkvkvs
Is also something else to look at

Im from the EU myself so not sure about the details mostly other than its going to break the internet and such
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Old 2012-01-18, 12:37 PM   [Ignore Me] #105
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Re: while not really a debate I wish to say F*#$ SOPA


Google has a petition that everyone should be signing:
https://www.google.com/landing/takeaction/
Also be sure to call your senators and let them know that you will NOT stand for them supporting censorship of the internet!
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