Are DICE Getting worried about planetside 2..

[rTekku]

Originally Posted by MrBloodworth

Read Top Sgt's post.

Then take your own advice.

[Stardouser]

Originally Posted by Top Sgt

snip - stuff about the ForgeLight engine

I'm not saying I want destruction but just curious about ForgeLight, could it do destruction if SOE decided?

[Xaine]

Thats right DICE, fear it..

FEAR.

IT.

[Sephirex]

Originally Posted by Stardouser

I'm not saying I want destruction but just curious about ForgeLight, could it do destruction if SOE decided?

Pre-scripted destruction like BF3? I bet it could with a little work. Full dynamic destruction like Red Faction? Probably not.

[ChipMHazard]

This DLC has been in the works for some time now so I really don't see how PS2 could have influenced it in any way. What influenced this was more likely the outcry from the playerbase for larger maps more akin to BF2/Desert Combat.
EA/DICE aren't going to be more worried about PS2 than they are of any other game that comes out which offers the same type of content they offer. They also aren't going to regard it as just a fluke.
If it only took a single new game to make game developers go poop in their pants and scream doomsday the whole market would be in a constant state of panic.

I have always found it puzzeling that some people actually wants a game to "die", why do some people have such hatred/dislike for a company or game that they wish death on it and the subsequent layofs. The more games that are on the market the better off we as consumers are.

I have never been a believer in the whole notion of "this game will kill that game". In general I have never seen a game kill off another game. Games fail on their own merits and time will always make people lose interest.
Every single game that has been proclaimed a WoW killer has failed at being that. Every single one.
The only time I have really noticed what one could deem as one game "killing" another game is when a sequel is released, but even then it seldom results in the "death" of the prequel.
A game will have to offer such new and creative gameplay that it simply outdates everything else that came before it, even then there will still be people who prefer "outdated" gameplay. For that example just look at Half-Life and how it influenced FPS development. Also I don't see PS "dying" until SOE takes down the last server.

So I can't say that I agree with Basti, at all really. BF1942 was an instant success and BF2 improved on just about everything. So I don't see how everything went to shit when BF2 was released, sequels are indeed sometimes just an overall improvement.
There will still be people playing BF3 on the PC after PS2 has been released. People who don't like sci-fi, people who don't want battles that have more than 64/32/24 players, a game that doesn't have matches etc. will still play games like BF3.
Will many FPS players play PS2? Hopefully so. Will other FPS games lose huge chucks of their playerbaes because of PS2? No, I don't see why they would. PS2 is going to be a F2P game and as such there's no reason as to why you wouldn't play PS2 and other FPS's you happen to enjoy. What about time? Yes, that's one commodity we're all short on. Of course I could see more casual gamers, who don't have a lot of time on their hands, to prefer FPS's that mave matches instead of an FPS which has a persistent world. Of course the devs are very much aware that a lot of players will want to be able to jump into a fight right after logging in.

Also like Firearms wrote, BF3 is mainly a console game. Which basicly ends any notion of DICE being worried about a PC exclusive taking their playerbase and leaving BF3 dead. Even though VGChartz isn't to be trusted completely.

I want PS2 to succede on it's own merits, not off the backs of those games it was supposed to "kill".

[Mystwalker]

hey y'all 1st post here
i would think console titles would be more worried about ccp's new console product in beta called dust514 then anything ps2 will do to them sure ps2 might take some market from them but console people are as passionate about there consoles as we are about pc gaming and our rigs
apples and oranges

[Zalmoxis]

Originally Posted by ChipMHazard

This DLC has been in the works for some time now so I really don't see how PS2 could have influenced it in any way. What influenced this was more likely the outcry from the playerbase for larger maps more akin to BF2/Desert Combat.
EA/DICE aren't going to be more worried about PS2 than they are of any other game that comes out which offers the same type of content they offer. They also aren't going to regard it as just a fluke.
If it only took a single new game to make game developers go poop in their pants and scream doomsday the whole market would be in a constant state of panic.

I have always found it puzzeling that some people actually wants a game to "die", why do some people have such hatred/dislike for a company or game that they wish death on it and the subsequent layofs. The more games that are on the market the better off we as consumers are.

I have never been a believer in the whole notion of "this game will kill that game". In general I have never seen a game kill off another game. Games fail on their own merits and time will always make people lose interest.
Every single game that has been proclaimed a WoW killer has failed at being that. Every single one.
The only time I have really noticed what one could deem as one game "killing" another game is when a sequel is released, but even then it seldom results in the "death" of the prequel.
A game will have to offer such new and creative gameplay that it simply outdates everything else that came before it, even then there will still be people who prefer "outdated" gameplay. For that example just look at Half-Life and how it influenced FPS development. Also I don't see PS "dying" until SOE takes down the last server.

So I can't say that I agree with Basti, at all really. BF1942 was an instant success and BF2 improved on just about everything. So I don't see how everything went to shit when BF2 was released, sequels are indeed sometimes just an overall improvement.
There will still be people playing BF3 on the PC after PS2 has been released. People who don't like sci-fi, people who don't want battles that have more than 64/32/24 players, a game that doesn't have matches etc. will still play games like BF3.
Will many FPS players play PS2? Hopefully so. Will other FPS games lose huge chucks of their playerbaes because of PS2? No, I don't see why they would. PS2 is going to be a F2P game and as such there's no reason as to why you wouldn't play PS2 and other FPS's you happen to enjoy. What about time? Yes, that's one commodity we're all short on. Of course I could see more casual gamers, who don't have a lot of time on their hands, to prefer FPS's that mave matches instead of an FPS which has a persistent world. Of course the devs are very much aware that a lot of players will want to be able to jump into a fight right after logging in.

Also like Firearms wrote, BF3 is mainly a console game. Which basicly ends any notion of DICE being worried about a PC exclusive taking their playerbase and leaving BF3 dead. Even though VGChartz isn't to be trusted completely.

I want PS2 to succede on it's own merits, not off the backs of those games it was supposed to "kill".

Basically this.

And they don't have to worry about anything yet. PS2 hasn't even released its CBT yet, let alone get some cash numbers to estimate their potential profit etc.

They will have to worry once PS2 reaches Open Beta because then people can freely come and see what it's made of.

[Mr DeCastellac]

Yeah, they're squirming for sure.
Why wouldn't they be? After PS2 is released, the only people who will still be playing BF3 will be console jockeys (Also known as 7 year olds) and people who haven't heard about this new, FREE, better game.

Think about this. Would you rather play:

With 63 other players on a 1 square kilometer map.
-OR-
With 1999 other players on your choice of three 'maps' each being 8 square kilometers.

The choice is obvious, and DICE sees that. I'd recommend they go change their underwear.

[Braveliltoaster]

i have a feeling after PS2 launches a lot of these companies will start to follow SoE idea for mass battles. I'm surprised they haven't caught on yet

[Sephirex]

Originally Posted by Braveliltoaster

i have a feeling after PS2 launches a lot of these companies will start to follow SoE idea for mass battles. I'm surprised they haven't caught on yet

Fingers crossed for a massive Star Wars Battlefront sequel.

[ChipMHazard]

Originally Posted by Braveliltoaster

i have a feeling after PS2 launches a lot of these companies will start to follow SoE idea for mass battles. I'm surprised they haven't caught on yet

It still needs to be proven cost effective, or proven to work for that matter hehe.
Hopefully this will lead to more developers putting the massive back in MMO's.

Mr DeCastellac: Really? Here I was hoping that we were done with the whole silly generalization of those who own consoles.

[Siimot]

This thread confirms how shitty this community can be, stop bashing other games while pretending a game you havent even played is the best thing ever. get over yourselves.

Yes im mad.

[Ratstomper]

Originally Posted by Siimot

This thread confirms how shitty this community can be, stop bashing other games while pretending a game you havent even played is the best thing ever. get over yourselves.

Yes im mad.

You're right, people probably shouldn't be praising the gameplay of a game they haven't played yet. People are just excited.

No reason to be mad. This community is like Mother Teresa compared to some others. Try the LoL community, some of those people are only one step above 4chan.

[Pepsi]

- Biggest BF map ever
- Only 10% of the map is playable

I don't care what DICE says they'll do, they've lied to me before.

Prove yourselves, DICE.

[rTekku]

Originally Posted by Siimot

This thread confirms how shitty this community can be, stop bashing other games while pretending a game you havent even played is the best thing ever. get over yourselves.

Yes im mad.

Won't be worse than Battlefield 3.

And it's free.