Downplaying future theme so that...

[lolroflroflcake]

Originally Posted by Stardouser

That doesn't matter though. We, or at least SOE, WANT the players from other games to come here. The fact that they may be biased is a challenge to be overcome, instead of saying "well, they're biased, so let's just not do anything at all".

If SOE didn't want players from these games they wouldn't be adopting modern FPS aspects.

And the sample, of course, is relevant to Battlefield. Not the entire FPS community across ALL games. I'm not suggesting that it's relevant to anything but BF3's 11 million.

That's not what I'm saying at all, I'm saying that your community is far to small to reliably take as a sample, even for the BF3 community. A few thousand is far to biased a size when your talking about numbers in the millions. A gathering of like minded individuals, which is what any community is, is not representative of a entire group. Especially when all that the greater group have in common is the fact that they bought the same game. Any number of people arguing against you in this thread right now could have bought BF3 and yet they still hold the complete opposite ideal. So unless you want this to devolve into a "my community is better then yours" type dick-waving contest I suggest you stop.

[MrBloodworth]

Clearly, its too Futuristic.

Where PS1 was using WWII era guns, PS2 is using Modern era guns ( some of witch have not changed for over 100 years ).

[Arsenicfrog]

Shawshank redemption was a great movie! I just wished they would have downplayed the whole "being in prison" thing.

[The Janitor]

I really enjoyed 2142. It had walking tanks! PS2 could do with walking tanks. Not BFRs, mind you, I know everyone hated those, but giant robots are cool!

[Metalsheep]

Originally Posted by The Janitor

I really enjoyed 2142. It had walking tanks! PS2 could do with walking tanks. Not BFRs, mind you, I know everyone hated those, but giant robots are cool!

Really people didnt hate BFRs because they were Mech/Walkers, they hated them because they were horribly implemented and not tested very much before being added to the game. A lone, Gunner BFR could halt and destroy an entire tank column and not get a scratch on its paint. I find their new, nerfed state much more acceptable and have no problem with the current version of the BFR.

But now, thanks to SoEs giant screw up, when most Planetside vets see anything vaguely walker-like they freak out and start a lynch mob. It would be a really tough fight to get them to accept any kind of Walker or Mecha type vehicle after Release BFRs.

[The Janitor]

Originally Posted by Metalsheep

But now, thanks to SoEs giant screw up, when most Planetside vets see anything vaguely walker-like they freak out and start a lynch mob. It would be a really tough fight to get them to accept any kind of Walker or Mecha type vehicle after Release BFRs.

Sadly, you are probably right. Perhaps if walkers were implemented and expressly stated/shown to be merely interesting, walking tanks and not all-powerful death machines people would be a bit more open about them.

[MrBloodworth]

This isn't a BFR thread.

Also, MECHS are to Si-fi, we need to play that down for the masses.

[The Janitor]

Originally Posted by WildVS

LOL this is now the thread from hell. First no SCI-FI and now bring on the BFR's.

You have just proved Metalsheep correct. Too many bad memories, I guess.

[Trolltaxi]

Anyone up to play Planetside with a My Little Pony setting? Or play it like High School Musical? Be honest, you wouldn't touch it, not even with a stick!

Similar goes with 'sci-fi-haters'... and this game needs pops. If the pop larger because of 'converted BF-fanboys', they still play our game and make our game more succesful.

The pro-sci-fi bias is not better or more 1337 than sci-fi-hater bias. Your arguments against them are not more valid than their arguments for hating sci-fi.

Still if Stardouser manages to convince them to give it a try, it means mutual benefit. They win a gameplay experience for life (like we did), we win more massive pops. Everyone's happy.

But you mock and sometimes even try to flame the OP, refuse to understand (not accept, just understand) his points, keep intentionally misunderstand his motives. Only less than 10 post out of these 9 long pages are constructive...

[raidyr]

I'd be down to try mechs again. Just because they were implemented poorly once doesn't mean they shouldn't ever be considered.

[Metalsheep]

Originally Posted by Trolltaxi

Anyone up to play Planetside with a My Little Pony setting?

Um. Hell yes.







Now we just need a NC Rainbow Dash.

[MgFalcon]

OK guys - lets not turn this into a BFR thread... we have too many of those already without this thread being completely derailed. Stick to the subject, and please... for the love of God don't talk about BFR's, they're a spawning ground for flame-wars!

[The Janitor]

Mechs and ponies. This game shall be glorious!

[PredatorFour]

Good to see your interested in converting other players to come join the epic fights in planetside Star, but you gotta realise trying to do this yourself.. or even with friends is a small drop in the ocean. This is the SoE PR departments problem not yours (of trying to advertise the game as much as possible). The first game`s PR was terrible and one reason it wasnt as popular as it shouldve been.
Tell them its like the futuristic BF 2142 or wateva. I remember seeing that game come out and thinking "wow theyve really copied PS here". Never played it tho cos PS took my hours. If they don`t like it it doesnt matter, hopefully the massive PR campaign Sony pulls off will more than compensate to bring in new blood.

[Stardouser]

Originally Posted by WildVS

And your entire solution to this problem is what? Ask this community and SOE to downplay the futuristic elements of the core game of PS2 as to not scare your friends off. You seem to have a reasonable amount of intelligence and I suggest you use it and let this topic go. You have already damaged any level of credibility you had here and in continuing to push this agenda on BF forums, you are not helping yourself there either. Very simple, PS2 is what it is, if anyone on the face of this planet tries the game (did I mention it's free) and doesn't like it, then by all means don't play it. End of story. It's SOE's concern not your's or mine. We like it or we don't. Now end this already.

Then I await with great interest an explanation for why everyone is SO quick to get involved and comment in SOE's defense when SOE introduces casualizations, saying that "the game must modernize to appeal to a majority". Both of these things are "SOE's concern, not ours", yet everyone jumps in on that one. This is what's called "trying to apply a double standard". You disagree with what I'm saying, even though what I'm saying is harming you in absolutely no way.

And by the way, like I care about my credibility with people who can't understand what's being discussed. I've said many times in this thread that I'm not asking SOE to do ANYTHING here. Yet you persist in saying that I am. And, these aren't my friends, I'm pretty sure I said that a few times, too.