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Old 2003-06-12, 08:01 AM   [Ignore Me] #1
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Angry Stop saying the Vanu Are Underpowered!!!


I'm really sick of you guys saying the Vanu are underpowered, nerf everyone! The Vanu are in no way, shape, or form underpowered. I've gotten to where I have developed a hate for the lasher, just because of the number of times I've died to it! Obviously, those people saying the Vanu are underpowered are in the wrong empire because they don't know how to use their own weapons! The good Vanu players can pwn all with their weapons, you just have to know how to use them! So please, stop saying "Nerf it! We're underpowered!" because that's a big load of bs.



(In memory of the TR Dual-Cycler MAX, may its AI power RIP )
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Old 2003-06-12, 08:36 AM   [Ignore Me] #2
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The VS were underpowered for the majority of beta, however they can more than hold their own now. I personally feel that all the empires are fairly well balanced.
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Old 2003-06-12, 08:46 AM   [Ignore Me] #3
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I think we're underpowered. If the devs are reading this, I would like a minigun version of the lancer.


With 100 shot clip.


Just to be fair.


Guided too if possible.
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Old 2003-06-12, 09:02 AM   [Ignore Me] #4
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Slice:

It's been proven, time after time, that the Vanu weaponry is sub-par, compared to the other factions. Please check out the official boards if You don't believe me. Thorough testing. Hard data.

I'm dropping my Heavy Assault cert myself today (the Lasher), because the damn thing is near impossible to use with any effectiveness. (Mainly due to its slow orb speed.) I'm going back to the common pool Sweeper, which is a very good gun. It makes a powerful combo together with my Lancer.

I've gotten to where I have developed a hate for the lasher, just because of the number of times I've died to it!
I do believe You are referring to the Lancer here, which is a quite nice gun, but that's because it doubles as a sniper rifle. It's Anti vehicle properties are weaker than the Striker though (IMO), since You get such a low hit ratio, due to the lack of missile lock or guided missiles, on moving targets.
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Old 2003-06-12, 09:33 AM   [Ignore Me] #5
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I'm Vanu and hopefully with the TR nerfs now in effect, things should be fairly well balanced.
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Old 2003-06-12, 09:35 AM   [Ignore Me] #6
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>> I'm dropping my Heavy Assault cert myself today (the Lasher),

Thank #@!*%$ god! I am so sick of being destroyed by those things inside with absolutely no recourse (other than looting an NC jackhammer). I think I'll go over to the OF and whine about it.
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Old 2003-06-12, 09:47 AM   [Ignore Me] #7
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psh all the factions are equal or u just suck.
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Old 2003-06-12, 09:51 AM   [Ignore Me] #8
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Today was my first day with the lasher. It owns.

Too many people using the duck and shoot tactic with it.

Wrong. Bad idea.

Lasher ALWAYS fires straight ahead. Strafe with it.

You'd be surprised how useless the jackhammer is against a moving target, and how hard it is to dodge lasher fire when trying to shoot said moving target.

The Cycler and the jackhammer are severely limited when you are not crouched or at point blank range.

The Lasher isn't limited in that way at all. Lasher strafing a crouched Jackhammer fiend who is consistently missing you is so easy it's almost unfair.

I carry a Lancer for long range. Surge to close the distance if the mood strikes me, then switch to Lasher and start strafing.



Instead of being afraid of TR and NC Heavy Assault weapons, go try them out in the shooting range on other servers. Move while shooting etc. Learn their weaknesses and exploit them instead of using the same old tactic for every weapon in your arsenal.
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Old 2003-06-12, 10:03 AM   [Ignore Me] #9
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People crouch while firing Jackhammer?

You sir just killed a noob.

And trust me, the lasher balls are BY FAR the easiest shot to dodge. (except the VS AV max balls)

Edit: Doesnt it seem stupid that people throw grenades faster than the lasher bullet?

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Old 2003-06-12, 10:04 AM   [Ignore Me] #10
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When I play Vanu on Konried, they aren't underpowered.
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Old 2003-06-12, 10:06 AM   [Ignore Me] #11
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But that's because You are uber, Airlift!
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Old 2003-06-12, 10:08 AM   [Ignore Me] #12
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No, it's because most of you are whiney little bitches who see the grass as being greener on the other side
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Old 2003-06-12, 10:14 AM   [Ignore Me] #13
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Originally posted by Jarlo
People crouch while firing Jackhammer?

You sir just killed a noob.

And trust me, the lasher balls are BY FAR the easiest shot to dodge. (except the VS AV max balls)

Edit: Doesnt it seem stupid that people throw grenades faster than the lasher bullet?
It's true, Jackhammer is the best gun in the game IMO. Powerful, decent range and can one hit kill and close range.

It puts the Mini-Chaingun and Lasher to shame.
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Old 2003-06-12, 10:36 AM   [Ignore Me] #14
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The jackhammer does not one hit kill at close range. Infact...nothing on hit kills unless the target is an infiltrator.

I prefer the pulsar to any of the other rifle long range. Close range ill have either the lasher or the sweeper. At extreme range, the Lancer is the way to go.

Are vanu underpowered? Yes. Does it matter in the long run? No not really. What really hurts us is the fact that vanu forces are outnumbered on almost all the servers. If our numbers were more up to par, i dont think anyone would complain as much.

Playing as the underdog will ultimatly make you a better player, so stop whining about it and learn your strengths.
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Old 2003-06-12, 10:39 AM   [Ignore Me] #15
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No, it's because most of you are whiney little bitches who see the grass as being greener on the other side
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