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View Poll Results: Have WW2 games outlived their days?
Yes! Give me UT2004! 5 18.52%
NO! I want BF1942 Super Secret Weapons Japanese-Chinese-Campaign! 5 18.52%
Just kill the God Forsaken Q3 engine love. 12 44.44%
wh47'5 ur b33f w1th WW2 g4m35? 5 18.52%
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Old 2003-11-17, 12:16 AM   [Ignore Me] #1
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Who feels WW2 games have outlived themselves? MOH then BF1942 then Return to Castle Wolfenstien, Call of Duty, throw in 100 expansion packs and thats almost all of them.

The only problem I really have with WW2 games is that they all seem to use the complete crap Quake3 engine. Yes, I admit it was good in its day, but its time for retirement PLEASE!

Why not use a more stable engine? Engines like HL or UT were designed with mods and/or new games in mind. Hell, use the never-used but still awesome looking Max Payne engine for all I care, but a 5 year old base engine?

PS - Jedi Knight 2 is another game that uses this engine, and that game runs like shit and is as buggy as all hell.
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Old 2003-11-17, 12:18 AM   [Ignore Me] #2
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Its a great engine, but its time to retire yes. The next big engine will be doom 3. Possibly HL if they license it out.

As for WWII - the games have run their course. They are all the same game with different controls.
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Old 2003-11-17, 12:24 AM   [Ignore Me] #3
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im thinking Doom3 seeing as how the HL2 will probably never see the light of day.

though im hoping the UTWarfare engine takes the cake
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Old 2003-11-17, 12:25 AM   [Ignore Me] #4
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Yes, get rid of the engine. Maybe put in a new one with one of those new catalystic converters.
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Old 2003-11-17, 12:57 AM   [Ignore Me] #5
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Originally Posted by Hamma
As for WWII - the games have run their course. They are all the same game with different controls.
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EDIT: Actually at least RTCW deviated from the normal storyline a bit.
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Old 2003-11-17, 01:03 AM   [Ignore Me] #6
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I do get sick of playing WW2 games. That's why I play the DC mod for 1942. I dont' want to kill Germans. I want to kill Iraqi people and steal their oil.

I've already reserved my copy of CS: Condition Zero.

I would play Planetside but I'm to cheap to pay a monthly fee. Besides.. don't you feel obligated to play that game sense you pay for it?
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Old 2003-11-17, 01:30 AM   [Ignore Me] #7
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Originally Posted by Mtx
Besides.. don't you feel obligated to play that game sense you pay for it?
no, because i dont get what i pay for, so i let my subscription run out.

FFXI or Matrix Online here i come!
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Old 2003-11-17, 01:38 AM   [Ignore Me] #8
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One WW2 game that I'd really like to see is one that puts you into the role of your standard everyday soldier. Not some special forces guy who goes to austria to rescue downed pilots or some douchebag who and fights nazi zombies(wtf?). In MOH they actually did Operation Overlord that was cool. I'd like to see some other real levels too like bastogne and uhhhh, yeah I'm not exactly a historian here but you get the point right?
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Old 2003-11-17, 01:42 AM   [Ignore Me] #9
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WW2 games are OFN. With the exception of CoD
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Old 2003-11-17, 02:00 AM   [Ignore Me] #10
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Originally Posted by Smaug
One WW2 game that I'd really like to see is one that puts you into the role of your standard everyday soldier. Not some special forces guy who goes to austria to rescue downed pilots or some douchebag who and fights nazi zombies(wtf?). In MOH they actually did Operation Overlord that was cool. I'd like to see some other real levels too like bastogne and uhhhh, yeah I'm not exactly a historian here but you get the point right?
BF 1942 lets you be a standard cannonfodder.
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Old 2003-11-17, 02:02 AM   [Ignore Me] #11
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Yeah true forgot about that one but I think of BF1942 as more of an online game. Meh I dunno the whole ticket thing.
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Old 2003-11-17, 02:06 AM   [Ignore Me] #12
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BF 1942 has nothing to do with WWII outside of it's textures though.

I'll be happy when they finally make a game that lets me play as a german infantryman on the russian front, but that won't ever happen.
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Old 2003-11-17, 02:21 AM   [Ignore Me] #13
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Originally Posted by Smaug
Yeah true forgot about that one but I think of BF1942 as more of an online game. Meh I dunno the whole ticket thing.

You can play that game offline?



But.. why would you want to play offline anyway?

There's no real joy in beating the computer. After you own an AI you can taunt it all you want and it doesn't care. People on the other hand get really pissed off. They scream, yell, bang their heads on the keyboard, and do all sorts of amusing things. That's what ownage is.. breaking someone.

If you can beat everyone around you you can easily beat the computer anyway. I stopped playing the offline version of most games a long time ago. There's just not enough challenge in AI. AI is generally stupid and is programmed to react certain ways. Once you figureout how the AI reacts you can easily own it. People, on the other hand, are sometimes without reason and just do things that if nothing else amuse you. Like running away only to be shot dead just before they make it over the hill. Or run past you as in search of what you were running from only to be swatted by the incoming Bradly. Watching their teammate die and then just sitting their like a dear in headlights while the crosshairs lock onto them. Jumping right infront of you while you're shooting and then screaming at you because they caught your bullets. Pulling a squirel and running out infront of your hummer and then woundering why they died. Shooting at the blackhawk with their M16a2.. yeah.. like my minigun fears you.

List goes on and on and on.
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Old 2003-11-17, 02:38 AM   [Ignore Me] #14
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Call of Duty owns, period. It's one of the only single-player campaigns I've ever considered running through again just for fun.

Owns I tell ye! Harrr.
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Old 2003-11-17, 02:38 AM   [Ignore Me] #15
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lol squeeks cant stand OFN... man if he's heard about it 2 minutes ago you better watch out... OFN baby....


oh and hte problem with WWII games is every asshat with a box of leggos thinks he can make one. Truth is there are only a few great ones out there, and those i never tire of.
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