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Old 2004-01-24, 02:04 AM   [Ignore Me] #1
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TR Prowler Drivers: Would this help?


Just wondering if this would help balance out the Prowler:

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Old 2004-01-24, 02:09 AM   [Ignore Me] #2
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The fact that you need a third man to gun the 12mm is what ruins any hope of the Prowler being a serious contender. That third man would be far better spent driving or gunning 100mm for another tank, or driving a Skyguard escort.

In fact, the best Terran tankers don't use 12mm gunners on their Prowlers.

Vanguard owns Prowler in so, so many ways. Imagine 10 Vanguards in a formation. With 20 people, they have the option to fire 10 150mm shells or train 10 20mm cannons on incoming aircraft. It would take 30 people to get comparable results with Prowlers, and you're talking perhaps 15,000 less armor in the formation (10 Vanguards is roughly 60,000 armor. 10 Prowlers is around 45,000).

Prowler is a joke. MagRider needs more armor, Prowler needs to lose the third gunner's seat permanently, and Van needs less armor. The devs show an amusing lack of awareness on this subject.

edit: Just imagine The Red X using his talent for organization for the NC instead. The Skyguard crews could be eliminated, replaced with Vanguard crew for a total of like 13 Vanguards. That's 13 150mm cannons, 13 20mm guns and 78,000 armor points. TR is lucky to have that guy.
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Old 2004-01-24, 03:52 AM   [Ignore Me] #3
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For a reference, this is the Trunk size now:


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Old 2004-01-24, 03:58 AM   [Ignore Me] #4
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I think the cargo for vehicles besides the reaver is big enough. I've never run out of bullets only in a reaver.
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Old 2004-01-24, 05:15 AM   [Ignore Me] #5
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The real problem isn't really the trunk size but the amount of ammo in the boxes. Sure a bigger trunk would help things but unless it becomes freaking huge you won't be able to carry the ammo needed for a longer sustained firefight. The 12 mm eats up ammo fast hehe.

Oh and, that low detailed prowler looks like an insult to the tr
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Old 2004-01-24, 06:20 AM   [Ignore Me] #6
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Yes, I detest the Pansy Prowler. Gimme some of that Big Black Love any day.

And in the end Veteran is right. Although I have rarely failed to own in a Prowler when using one, at the end of the day the Van is just better. And having a 3rd gunner is a waste.

Now maybe if that 3rd gunner was using something like twin 35MM cannons and not pea shooters, it'd be worth it.
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Old 2004-01-24, 06:39 AM   [Ignore Me] #7
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It'd be cool if the Prowler was a two-seater and when the gunner switched firing modes, they would switch from the top-mounted 12mm to the 100mm.

I think that and a 500 point reduction in Vanguard's armor would go a long way to fixing the problem.
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Old 2004-01-24, 10:28 AM   [Ignore Me] #8
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I think the van and the prowler need an armor switch. It still doesn't make sense to me that the biggest tank with the highest profile and lowest speed has only medium armor
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Old 2004-01-24, 11:18 AM   [Ignore Me] #9
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Old 2004-01-24, 11:52 AM   [Ignore Me] #10
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Originally Posted by Lise
Now maybe if that 3rd gunner was using something like twin 35MM cannons and not pea shooters, it'd be worth it.


A singular 35 on te Lib is enough to tear through just about anything, having dual 35's would more than likely be more powerful than the 100's, simply because of the LOS firing, refire rate, and sheer "own you in 2 seconds flat" factor the single 35 has.


Id be cool with dual 20 mm's.
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Old 2004-01-24, 12:02 PM   [Ignore Me] #11
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Yeah an armor switch would be good of the van and prowler is the way it should be i don't see were it got switched in the first place, but that top mounted gun can realy ruin your day if its manned, it owns infantry and becasue its independent the mina gun can still focus on any armored targets, a very slight damage buff for it would be ok.
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Old 2004-01-24, 12:06 PM   [Ignore Me] #12
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  • Spee:
    Id be cool with dual 20 mm's.

You mean like this?
http://www.planetside-universe.com/m...php?img_id=711
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Old 2004-01-24, 12:27 PM   [Ignore Me] #13
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Ah yeh, doubling the clipsize to 500 ammo wouldn't be too hard to justify.

Although I am slightly glad they stealth buffed the Roof turret from 200 to 250 clip.
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Old 2004-01-24, 12:41 PM   [Ignore Me] #14
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If they raised the clip to 500, and the storage to 600, they could then do this:

Instead of alternating fire at half speed
It could instead full-auto on both
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Old 2004-01-24, 12:42 PM   [Ignore Me] #15
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this is where lodestars come in, immediate resupplying, if there isnt a base nearby then have a bunch of lodestars fly in and you can set up a resupply and repair station
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