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Old 2005-01-12, 11:07 PM   [Ignore Me] #1
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Flight BFRs Getting Nerfed (Upcoming Update)


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Old 2005-01-13, 08:59 AM   [Ignore Me] #2
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God damnit, if anything they need a buff.
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Old 2005-01-13, 10:12 AM   [Ignore Me] #3
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Originally Posted by Kam
God damnit, if anything they need a buff.
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Old 2005-01-13, 11:38 AM   [Ignore Me] #4
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looks good, but they've still left out the main bit, AA weapons locking onto flight bfrs!!!!
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Old 2005-01-13, 01:03 PM   [Ignore Me] #5
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Originally Posted by Kam
God damnit, if anything they need a buff.
No. In fact, I wonder if this nerf will be effective enough. "Slightly" and "moderately" are fairly uncertain terms.
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Old 2005-01-13, 01:50 PM   [Ignore Me] #6
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Fight varients are like paper, especially when their shields go down.
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Old 2005-01-13, 02:32 PM   [Ignore Me] #7
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Not much of a nerf....
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Old 2005-01-13, 03:46 PM   [Ignore Me] #8
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Originally Posted by Kam
Fight varients are like paper, especially when their shields go down.
That's the idea.

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Not much of a nerf....
It's what is needed. The Vanu lasers are getting damage degredation fixed (so they won't be instant death fro 100m anymore) and the FV's will theoretically not be able to fly all over the goddamn place so easily anymore.
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Old 2005-01-13, 04:31 PM   [Ignore Me] #9
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We will see how this comes.... I wonder how that nerf bat is lookin by now o_O
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Old 2005-01-13, 06:40 PM   [Ignore Me] #10
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Originally Posted by Warborn
That's the idea.



It's what is needed. The Vanu lasers are getting damage degredation fixed (so they won't be instant death fro 100m anymore) and the FV's will theoretically not be able to fly all over the goddamn place so easily anymore.
If you look in my BFR thread I agree that the vanu AI is a instagib weapon, however, the NC and TR BFR's need not me nerfed anymore. The TR AI is worthless at long ranges, and requires somewhat good aim to kill with. The NC AI are absolutely worthless beyond like 80 yards, but they pwn at close range. (And they should.) People need to stop complaining, one man in agile with three decis can kill a FV, which is absolutely rediculous. Once there shields are down they are paper, and it takes forever for them to recharge. They already had their movement rate slowed and now they are suppose to be even slower. I don't see any of you complaining when a tank kills you, and BFRs are basically tanks with legs. Then ofcourse everytime they are nerfed we lose more subs because the pilots are tired of getting killed by some newb with a deci, like it or not BFR pilots are a large percentage of the subs, and they need to be satisfied too. But whatever, I just hate it when things are unbalanced, and after this patch the BFRs will be worthless.
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Old 2005-01-13, 07:57 PM   [Ignore Me] #11
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BFR pilots do need to be satisified, but that doesn't mean they need to be pandered to. Flight BFRs are very retarded to fight, and this is coming from someone who up until a few days ago would use them. If the enemy doesn't have a few tanks among them, it's really easy to fly around, staying out of jammer range, mowing down all the infantry running around. That video someone made about flight BFRs before illustrates just how ridiculous those BFRs are, and although the VS AI weapons were bugged, the TR ones certainly don't suck, and the NC AV guns are good for anti-infantry work too (which is probably why nobody ever uses the super-jackhammer guns).
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Old 2005-01-13, 09:39 PM   [Ignore Me] #12
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Originally Posted by Kam
Fight varients are like paper, especially when their shields go down.

Good. So they're paper. Want cardboard? Get a GV. Tile? Get a tank.

Originally Posted by Warborn
The Vanu lasers are getting damage degredation fixed (so they won't be instant death fro 100m anymore)
Even though I'm a VS, I will appreciate this. I'm sick of getting my kills stolen because some BFR pilot decides he wants to instagib a few infantry 2 miles away.

I'm happy that they're getting nerfed again. 3 decis owns a FV. 6 decis owns a GV. All under the shield. And, literally the only way to get under the shield is to drop, jam, deci... FVs could easily fly away if it weren't for jammers. Think of it this way. A battle between 2 lightnings. It's almost an even duel. A VS FV with dual AV against 2 prowlers. Who would win? Likely the prowlers. a VS FV with dual AV against 1 prowler, it's almost even. The BFR would probably win, but so what? The game's almost balanced again. If you don't like it that way, drop BFR and get something more useful. I'm happier getting 3 kills every 5 minutes in a reaver rather than 20 kills in 50 minutes in a BFR.

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Old 2005-01-13, 09:49 PM   [Ignore Me] #13
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Originally Posted by iluvthequasar

Good. So they're paper. Want cardboard? Get a GV. Tile? Get a tank.
See you're forgetting what BFR Pilots did for that "paper" they hacked 10 bases in core combat, killed 100 unique kills then 15 in one life, and payed 6(soon to be 7) certs for it... BFRs wer supposed to be the heavy tank... now they're becoming the flying light tank... Because some noob can pay 5 cert points and then make you wait 50 minutes for another is just wrong
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Old 2005-01-13, 10:55 PM   [Ignore Me] #14
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What do you mean soon to be seven, I have used all 20 br certs. So am I just going to get all my hard work denied? I had to sacrifice too dam much for something that is becomming useless. I don't think many non BFR pilots know how freaking long it takes to get 10 caves hacks, considering there are so few people in the caves ever. Lol I'll probably have to find a fourth outfit after this patch, as my last three left because of the nerfs.
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Old 2005-01-13, 11:39 PM   [Ignore Me] #15
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Originally Posted by FatalLight
See you're forgetting what BFR Pilots did for that "paper" they hacked 10 bases in core combat, killed 100 unique kills then 15 in one life, and payed 6(soon to be 7) certs for it... BFRs wer supposed to be the heavy tank... now they're becoming the flying light tank... Because some noob can pay 5 cert points and then make you wait 50 minutes for another is just wrong
Gunner variants are the heavy tanks. I don't know what flight variants are but they sure as hell aren't suppose to be heavy tanks. They like the lightnings of the BFR world, and that's the way it should be.

Also, the prerequisites for BFRs are not a substitute for BFRs being well-balanced additions to the game.
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